Restoration, 22' Mac

[Robin F]

I have had to to unstep the mast (not sure if this is the correct term) since putting the boat in the water, but my GF was able to help me put the mast in the step. She just rested the mast on her shoulder with both hands supporting it and while I was putting the bolt through the step. As I dead lifted the mast she just help by raising the mast with her hands off her shoulder whie in the CP (this must be love).
Yesterday I need to add a flag halyard to the spreaders, I used a simple block set with nylon lines that I picked up from Lowes that was attached to the bow pulpit and to the mast. I then unhook the front stay and and then support the mast on my shoulder while standing behind it and carefully lower the mast after unhooking the temporary block and line. It's a PITA, but not horrilble. Sometimes making sure your rigging is not snagged is difficult, but before I raise the mast I visibly check all the rigging to make sure it's clear of snags.

 

[Tom Stiles]

I'm looking for a front hatch for a 71 222. My boat never had the hatch cut out, and I would like to be able to open it up.

 

[Smithy]

I have had to to unstep the mast (not sure if this is the correct term) since putting the boat in the water, but my GF was able to help me put the mast in the step. She just rested the mast on her shoulder with both hands supporting it and while I was putting the bolt through the step. As I dead lifted the mast she just help by raising the mast with her hands off her shoulder whie in the CP (this must be love).
Yesterday I need to add a flag halyard to the spreaders, I used a simple block set with nylon lines that I picked up from Lowes that was attached to the bow pulpit and to the mast. I then unhook the front stay and and then support the mast on my shoulder while standing behind it and carefully lower the mast after unhooking the temporary block and line. It's a PITA, but not horrilble. Sometimes making sure your rigging is not snagged is difficult, but before I raise the mast I visibly check all the rigging to make sure it's clear of snags.

It's getting the mast supported well enough that I can bolt the foot by myself that is the key challenge here, I think. Raising from there shouldn't be too much of a problem, but a pully rig will help. My back isn't what it used to be.

 

[GreenNCSailor]

It's getting the mast supported well enough that I can bolt the foot by myself that is the key challenge here, I think. Raising from there shouldn't be too much of a problem, but a pully rig will help. My back isn't what it used to be.

Smithy, I'm out of town for a couple days. When I get back I will show what I am using for mine and how I position it. You can make for $10 or you probably have some scrap lumber laying around you can use!

 

[timebandit]

I made this cruch out of 1x1 steel tubing.

It mounts to the rudder mounts.

I just slip it under the mast to pin it.

After it is in place you just roll the mast aft untill the bolt lines up and install.

the mast will start to balance so that you may need to push down to get it into the base, a coupple of pounds maybe.

On the bottom of the pole is a bar that keeps the pole from turning.

My crutch is extra long because of the hand holds mounted to the slider top.

This crutch is for raising only and is carried in the truck.

 

[Robin F]

Hey Timebandit, it looks better than the original.

 

[rgranger]

Hey Smithy

Time Bandits crutch is way cool.... but if you aren't feeling that industrious you can go on the simple by just cutting a "V" into a 2 x 6 and using pintles mount it to your transom using the same gudgeons as the rudder. That is how mine is set up. Then you slide the mast back until the foot of the mast is lined up with the tabernacle and slide the bolt in. Standing on the roof of your cabin, reach down between your legs and deadlift the mast into place. The tricky part is getting the forestay buckled while holding the mast. I always try to park with a slight decline so the boat is nose down a bit and the mast will stand while I rush forward to clip the forestay. I also keep the forestay in my hand while I go forward. I try to keep a little pressure on the forestay so the mast won't fall.

Good luck.

 

[caguy]

I always try to park with a slight decline so the boat is nose down a bit and the mast will stand while I rush forward to clip the forestay. I also keep the forestay in my hand while I go forward. I try to keep a little pressure on the forestay so the mast won't fall.

Good luck.

It is easier to tie off your jib halyard to the anchor cleat. Once raised cleat the other end at the bottom of your mast, pull as tight as you can. Now the mast is not going anywhere. You can go forward and with your leg or body apply side pressure to the halyard. This will give you enough slack in the forestay to attach it. Even easier with a Johnson lever.
I try to raise the mast dead into the wind. A tail wind or side wind can be disastrous.

 

[Smithy]

I'm building the lever pole and the crutch tomorrow. Wish me luck, pics to follow.

Got the new VIN today from DMV, with title. Tomorrow, I also plate it, to be finally legal. Dang, that was a long time coming.

All of this, because I need it in the water on Wednesday for Scouts - we're doing "wet boat training".


Arrrgh.

 

[nemosuit]

I'm restoring a similar boat: 78 Mac 22. I've noticed some boats of this approximate size and vintage have a front window in the cabin roof; and others don't. (Mine does.)

Can anyone tell me what the difference or significance of this window is? A special option? Denotes a different model? Whatupp-widdat?

Thanks!

Pat

 

[rgranger]

It is easier to tie off your jib halyard to the anchor cleat. Once raised cleat the other end at the bottom of your mast, pull as tight as you can. Now the mast is not going anywhere.

Damn!

... and all this time I though I was cleaver.

Now I just feel stupid. I know how I'll do it the next time I raise my mast.

Thanks CAGUY!

r

 

[rgranger]

I'm restoring a similar boat: 78 Mac 22. I've noticed some boats of this approximate size and vintage have a front window in the cabin roof; and others don't. (Mine does.)

Can anyone tell me what the difference or significance of this window is? A special option? Denotes a different model? Whatupp-widdat?

Thanks!

Pat

I might be wrong on this one.... someone here will surely tell me if I am... but I think MacGregor made a V22 that did not have the front window nor did it have a pop top and then later made a V2-22 that had a pop top and a front window.

 

[Smithy]

I think they're like thumbprints... I've not seen two that are identical.

 

[Smithy]

It is easier to tie off your jib halyard to the anchor cleat. Once raised cleat the other end at the bottom of your mast, pull as tight as you can. Now the mast is not going anywhere. You can go forward and with your leg or body apply side pressure to the halyard. This will give you enough slack in the forestay to attach it. Even easier with a Johnson lever.
I try to raise the mast dead into the wind. A tail wind or side wind can be disastrous.

Does that give you enough power to lift the mast? Or is this just a means to support it until the stay is attached?

 

[ChockFullOnuts222]

Front window was an option. I have seen the V22 and the V2-22 with or without the front window (mine has this option). The picture of the V222 in the color sales brochure shows the post-1974 V222 with a front window, so even the "second generation" 222 had this option (if at least only until a particular year. I have not seen the window on anything made in the '80's, in person or in pictures online.

I think Smithy said it well...these boats are indeed like thumb prints ('70s models). I've never seen any two that were identical. Especially in the earlier years, in my experience. Even the bow pulpits aren't all the same on these boats.

 

[rgranger]

Does that give you enough power to lift the mast? Or is this just a means to support it until the stay is attached?

I'm going to say no... but I've never tried. You also need to worry about the mast swaying side to side while hauling it up. And the jib halyard will not prevent that. So once you have bolted the mast to the tabernacle, I think the best option is still...

... stand on the cabin top over the mast facing aft, reach down between your legs, keep your back straight and dead lift. Take about three backwards steps towards the bow you have a raised mast. Now do CaGuy's thing and you are done.

 

[timebandit]

This is the bottom of the mast crutch, the cross bar keeps it from rotating and there is a pin on the bottom and the bolt on top keeps it from being pulled out if a line or something catches when raising.

I am wondering if the propornets of just putting it up there ever do it on the water to go under a bridge or chase a wayward halyard.

 

[Smithy]

Well I built a mast crutch today, 1 inch squre tube that mounts on the rudder pintles, and extends a good 3 feet above the transom. Used a 3 inch roller, welded the tube into a "u" shape to support a through-bolt. I think that'll solve my "getting the base of the mast into the step plate" problem. Now to just solve the raising problem without killing my back. We're going in the water tomorrow, so we'll probably just dead-lift, but I have most of what I need for a gin pole, just need to assemble some of it and mount a deck plate to swivel it.

I'll try to get some pictures tomorrow.

 

[nemosuit]

Well I built a mast crutch today, 1 inch squre tube that mounts on the rudder pintles, and extends a good 3 feet above the transom. Used a 3 inch roller, welded the tube into a "u" shape to support a through-bolt. I think that'll solve my "getting the base of the mast into the step plate" problem. Now to just solve the raising problem without killing my back. We're going in the water tomorrow, so we'll probably just dead-lift, but I have most of what I need for a gin pole, just need to assemble some of it and mount a deck plate to swivel it.

I'll try to get some pictures tomorrow.

Thanks for the window answers, guys. Not trying to hijack the thread; just couldn't get signed on any other way the other night.

Getting back on topic: I, too, am thinking about making a mast carrier that will attach to the rudder mounts while trailering. I'm concerned about stress on the rudder mounts caused by the mast bouncing while on the highway.

I was thinking of building a small gas shock absorber into the carrier upright to cushion the ride.

Is this a legitimate concern? Nothing to worry about? You experienced guys: whattayathink?

VBR,

Pat

 

[justsomeguy]

Don't let the mast flex while trailering. IMO