New O'Day 25 owner

[Jackdaw]

No it is just the distance the shackle extends from the deck to the tack on the jib. On that picture over my daughters shoulder you can see the sail hitting the bow top railing. Maybe this ok, I just never noticed it much on other boats before, then again this is mine so now I pay attention to a lot more then I ever did before.

That seems hard to believe... from the angle it looks the the tack is over a foot above the deck!

Anyway. If the sail is a jib (meaning that the tack does not come any further back than the shrouds) you should look to sheet the sail INSIDE the shrouds, and not around then. In any case, sheeting a jib on a boat designed for genoas is usually an trick, in your case in particular because you have no tracks. For a jib your sheeting point should be MUCH farther forward.

 

[JRT]

Thanks I get it now, so I should run the jib sheets between the shrouds and the genoa sheets outside the shrouds. I assume I leave that metal line extension on the head then.

 

[JRT]

Thanks, I was also wondering if I should take the sails home with me and hose them off and clean with soap and water in the driveway to see if they will clean up a bit?

 

[cb32863]

One small tip on where you had your boat hook, get some velcro and wrap it around it and the hand rail. PITA when they fall in the water, especially if they don't float. Though, on the day you were out, not likely for it to move.

 

[Ward H]

John, The jib that came with my 25 had a 12" pendant at the head of the sail because the head did not go high go all the way to the top of the stay. I understand the pendant was used to keep the halyard at the correct angle to prevent halyard wrap.
I tired moving it to the bottom to raise the sail higher, didn't see any improvement and decided the rigger who installed the furling system and adapted the jib new more than I did so I put it back.

Both my jibs touch the bow rail a little. No biggie.

 

[JRT]

Thanks Ward, that is the correct term, pendant, I'm learning as I go and it is probably about 12" on mine also. Some of this I got some I don't

Ward what do you think about 2 of these blocks for the topping lift like yours?
http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|118|2358452|2358463&id=1822634

 

[Ward H]

That will work for one of the blocks but you will also need one like this, which has a "becket" if your doing the same thing I did.
http://www.apsltd.com/29mm-carbo-single-w-bec.html

Lewmar probably makes one, I just did a quick search and didn't find it. Be sure to check with this site's store.
Stay in the 29-30 mm size range. You don't need to go bigger.

Sailors terminology. I fought it my first few years. Right, left, front, rear. Then I finally "got on board" but I'll write pennant as often as I write pendant. Or as my wife says, "that short wire string".

 

[JRT]

Ah you have a roller fuller, I'm old school with jib hanks to install each time. I like it for now as I'm learning this way and like the simple approach.

 

[cb32863]

Ah you have a roller fuller, I'm old school with jib hanks to install each time. I like it for now as I'm learning this way and like the simple approach.

Can get a jib bag, had one on my 25. Leave the sail on the deck in a Sunbrella bag hanked on. Just unzip and attach the halyard. Still wondering why you want to add blocks to a topping lift for the boom? You could probably get a boomkicker for the price and rigging hassle of those blocks. No more stuff hanging from the top of the mast rubbing on your mainsail.

 

[Jackdaw]

Well, I have no idea where y'all talking about 2 different blocks or 12 inch pendant stuff but here's what I rigged so far. It does work well. And a 12 inch pendant is something my gramma gave to my mother for weddings and such. Grin. . And why do they put the head at the top of the sail ? There's no privacy up there !

WOW Oliver rig your boat the way you want, but I'd NEVER suggest anyone use the hardware you've cobbled together to keep your sail and roller operational. Yikes.

 

[JRT]

Can get a jib bag, had one on my 25. Leave the sail on the deck in a Sunbrella bag hanked on. Just unzip and attach the halyard. Still wondering why you want to add blocks to a topping lift for the boom? You could probably get a boomkicker for the price and rigging hassle of those blocks. No more stuff hanging from the top of the mast rubbing on your mainsail.

Mostly because the metal line is already there snd to remove is a mast dropping exercise. For this season I'm looking at easy solutions while we learn.

I do like the boomkicker alot, just have to wait a bit.

 

[svchickadee]

My oday 25 boom has a fitting at the top of the aft end of the boom. That fitting has two holes. I added a length of line to the topping lift and two snaps from the hardware store. The 1st snap is always engaged to one hole in the fitting. The 1st snap is used to hold the boom right above the bimini when the mainsail is being raised. The 2nd snap is used to raise the boom up to a point used to store the mainsail on the boom when the mainsail is down. To raise the mainsail the 2nd snap is released allowing the boom to rest right above the bimini. When lowering the mainsail the 2nd snap is engaged. My first time to upload an image, hope it is helpful.

 

[Jackdaw]

Can get a jib bag, had one on my 25. Leave the sail on the deck in a Sunbrella bag hanked on. Just unzip and attach the halyard. Still wondering why you want to add blocks to a topping lift for the boom? You could probably get a boomkicker for the price and rigging hassle of those blocks. No more stuff hanging from the top of the mast rubbing on your mainsail.

OK for old sails, but who wants to wad up a crispy genoa and stuff it into a tiny bag?? ;^)

 

[JRT]

SV very nice and simple setup, I have line and unused snaps already on the boat too so this looks like a winner for right now and to get ride of the messed up loop of half donkey tied line of questionable age and strength.

The next important question is detail on that sweet solar panel / bimini setup! Seriously is that a custom job and can you sail with it up and not interfere with boom / traveler / moving forward?

 

[JRT]

Ya well we have a spider problem at the dock right now so I'm ok with folding up the jib/genoa neatly at the end of the day and stowing in the cabin. We looked at a couple of boats and anything left on deck gets spiders and my wife is not going to have that.

I like taking my time folding up the sails neatly and keeping the cabin in ready to enjoy state. I have my kids trained to coil the lines instead of leaving them in piles

 

[svchickadee]

The bimini and solar panel setup was a custom job. There is no need to change anything on the solar setup to sail the boat. I put a lot of time and money into the boat. Took it down the icw from Md to Fl and over to Long Island in the Bahamas via Abacos, Eleuthera and Exuma in 2015-2016.

 

[LeeandRick]

John, even if you do put a boom kicker on the boat you will still want a topping lift to attach to the boom when not sailing. We just have a non adjustable line from the top of the mast to the end of the boom with a snap shackle to attach to the boom. Before we raise the sail we disconnect it and stow at the side stays. Prolonged weight on the rods and a little heat will bend them and they will take a set.

 

[cb32863]

OK for old sails, but who wants to wad up a crispy genoa and stuff it into a tiny bag?? ;^)

Depends on how well ya flake yer sail.

 

[cb32863]

John, even if you do put a boom kicker on the boat you will still want a topping lift to attach to the boom when not sailing. We just have a non adjustable line from the top of the mast to the end of the boom with a snap shackle to attach to the boom. Before we raise the sail we disconnect it and stow at the side stays. Prolonged weight on the rods and a little heat will bend them and they will take a set.

I have a boomkicker and there is no need for a topping lift. It keeps the boom up with the main flaked on. As designed.

 

[Jackdaw]

John, even if you do put a boom kicker on the boat you will still want a topping lift to attach to the boom when not sailing. Prolonged weight on the rods and a little heat will bend them and they will take a set.

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