Just Bought My First Boat - About to Give it to a Scrapyard
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Do you have any cites for this or are you thinking of a problem wih the late 80's 302 model?* There was also the early-production O'Day 30 that totally lost its keel due to similar build problem, in Texas. .
thinking about it afterwards, I think it may be my inexperience with the torque wrench. I was being as careful as possible as I’ve read horror stories of sinking bolts, I may just have not torqued it enough
I did manage to convince the yard to torque these bolts for me, hopefully this week, so Ill know for sure soon. The ones that did torque up nicely definitely had to be torqued, they were initially at 60 ft-lb (factory spec is 105 ft-lbs for my model), no wonder I have the smile.
too bad I missed you! I’m there almost every weekend at this point but usually leave early Sunday if I can to get back to the lower mainland. Glad you got to see the boat in person!
The owner of the Monk Trawler is really nice. He let me use his car headlights last night so I could do the first coat of bottom paint! (Started at 9)
Here is the boat currently!
It has been way over a decade, and I do not recall the exact model. The story was either here or the other large site, sailnet. There were pictures of the inside sump after the boat was recovered, with torn out frp. Kind of unsettling, actually.
I had an 87 MK-II and it definitely had wood in the stub. It was bone dry, but wood nonetheless.
I believe the change happened in 1988, though I can't say whether some of the '87 boats also had the all-glass stubs. But mine most definitely did not.
The switch to all-glass keel stubs occurred around 1988. I was very active on the Catalina 30 list for the 10 years I had my boat and there were no reports of keels having fallen off. The repair is messy but not especially expensive or difficult. Catalina issued instructions on how to do it.
That is unsettling but you have the wrong boat and the wrong time frame. I would respectfully suggest that if you don't know the facts you should not post something like that.
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I just checked to see if I have the repair instructions from Catalina saved on my hard drive, but I do not. These files were readily available through the C30 forum I was involved with at the time. I probably did not bother to save it because my boat had no issues with the keel stub. But I do recall seeing the document at one time, and that the fix involved simply chiseling out the wood and laying glass in its place. It was hardly rocket science but more of a messy annoyance, as I recall from the posts of a few members who found themselves having to do the modification. Thankfully Catalina got rid of the wood in '88 or so, eliminating that as a potential failure point in later boats.
Here is the Keel Stub Repair document from Catalina Yachts for those interested. I also have it in PDF if preferred.
Well, let's hope that is the case - otherwise it is not a good sign at all.
Do keep us up-to-date - we do care...
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If the sump remains wet while in the water & keel exhibits a big smile, seems that it would be prudent to drop keel while removing the plywood core & glassing the sump. Only positive is that with the advent of multi / oscillating tools, should make the job much easier with the variety of blades, scraper, & sanding attachments available.
I just got an update from the boatyard. They haven’t mentioned the keel yet but its a good thing they looked at the thru hulls. The engine intake apparently snapped from corrosion as soon as they touched it (the backing wood was rotten) and 2 others weren’t thru hulls at all, just copper tubes in the hull. Might have been a previous DIY repair.
I’m glad these are getting fixed before I launched!
I’m glad these are getting fixed before I launched!
That's what people keep telling me...I am not sure what I can do at this point but just doubt everything I've been told about the boat.
At least for my peace of mind the whole underwater portion of the hull has now been worked on by either myself or the boatyard, there isn't much left down there that hasn't been looked at.
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I am confident that your survey has a clause that says they surveyor is not liable for error or omissions.
How about negligence? Once everything is fixed to his liking, I would certainly confront the surveyor and go over what he/she missed. In a nice way over a cup of coffee.
No doubt. However, every surveyor has E&O insurance (error and omission) specifically to protect against liability for both. They wouldn’t pay for such insurance if it was unnecessary.
Ask the surveyor who his underwriter is. Typically, that will get his intention. If not, pursue any claim with his insurer. Whether that bring you any satisfaction is another issue.