Help!! Did I make a huge mistake?

[RJD]

Looking good!

When I rebuilt my trailer I had to cut almost every bolt and u-bolt off due to rust. When I reinstalled the new SS hardware, I used anti-seize compound on all bolt threads. Just throwing it out there.

 

[Chris115]

Hey Reefsider. Nice job on the trailer!
Just noticed you are in Toronto. Whereabouts in the city are you, and where are you planning to sail? We now have 4 Catalina 22s at our club in Scarborough and always looking to welcome new members, particularly those with nice boats, such as Catalinas!

 

[Barnacle_Bob]

Reefsider: your trailer is looking good. My trailer is going to need the same treatment, unfortunately. Couple of questions for you:

- how long did it take you to. Sand it and wire brush it?
- which tools worked best for you. I have a 4" grinder that I think I can get sanding disks and p wire brush attachments for. Something like that? Or did you find a better way to do it?
- did you spray on the primer, or brush it on?
- did you use any kind of a chemical rust neutralizer before applying the primer?

This looks like a lot of work; but, maybe it's not as bad as it looks. I enjoy sailing my boat a whole lot more than working on it; but, sometimes ya just gotta double-down and spend the time on the maintenance.

- Bob

 

[reefsider]

RJD - Thanks
I used a decent impact gun so it either came off or broke off pretty quick lol. I was surprised how many came off though. No cutting or drilling thankfully.
I will also use stainless when putting it back together and I know about anti-seize from experience.
I pretty much coat every screw that is metal on metal with something. I like aviation gasket seal or loctite but for stainless on stainless it's the copper anti-seize for sure.

 

[reefsider]

Chris115 - I'm not sure where I'll be keeping the boat yet. I have a few ideas but haven't made a final decision. Im on a pretty tight budget so it may be a trailer sailer for a year or two. I'll PM you and we can chat a bit. It would be great to get out sailing with other C22's

 

[reefsider]

Barnacle_Bob -
it didn't take that long really. All that was one day pretty much. It was a lot of work, very dirty, and tough on the back though.

I started by removing everything bolted to the trailer except the axle. I was tempted to remove the frame from the suspension rails but decided I'm on a time deadline and that would have to wait.
There was a ton of cracking and peeling and different colours showing through so I decided to try to get as much old paint off as I could. I first tried using a chemical stripper but it was a complete waste of time and money. I ended up using a rubber backed drill attachment for grinding (36 grit) and went at the outside and basically anywhere I could reach the tool. I didn't take everything off everywhere. Just enough that I knew what was there was on there good by the way the wheel was taking it off. Then I used a hand wire brush for the really tight spots and moved on to the drill attachment 4" wire wheel. I used that for most of the inside of the c rails and on the suspension. Then used a DA sander and hand sanded some parts. By this time I was completely coated head to toe in rust, dirt and paint dust, don't forget a good mask and glasses!

Now clean everything including yourself lol. You don't want that stuff falling into your nice paint job.

Next wash the entire trailer with a clean cloth wet with acetone and you're ready to paint. You can use etching primer but it's expensive and I didnt. I used tremclad rust paint and the tremclad/armour coat primer. I used a brush for the tough to reach parts but for anything I could I used a small roller. I like how nice and even the roller makes everything and it's so much faster. I'm actually going to buy smaller rollers to do the inside of the c-rails when I paint the colour. It really does come out so much better.

Hope that helps. Not sure it's the right way but it's how I did it.

 

[Barnacle_Bob]

Reefsider: Thank you. Really great tips. I am in Arizona and our sailing season gets started in about a month. It's still too hot to start this job, but I do think that I'll try to repaint the trailer in the cooler months ahead, before year-end. Thanks for sharing your experience.

- Bob

 

[C22-Daydreamer]

Looking good. Your trailer is similar to mine. Though there are some differences. I'm going to be doing the same to mine good to see your pics. Keep them coming.

 

[C22-Daydreamer]

Reefsider: Thank you. Really great tips. I am in Arizona and our sailing season gets started in about a month. It's still too hot to start this job, but I do think that I'll try to repaint the trailer in the cooler months ahead, before year-end. Thanks for sharing your experience.

- Bob

Yeah, I'm in Oklahoma and it's been the same here though not quite as hot. Humidity has been higher though which just makes it miserable. 15 minutes of work then 45 minutes of recovery from the heat.

 

[reefsider]

Yep it's been crazy hot here too we've been in a heat wave. Temps in the 90's for a couple weeks now and so sticky humid. I'm on a time deadline though so just got to deal with it and keep going.

 

[reefsider]

Here's some progress photos
Sanding

Primer

First coat:

 

[reefsider]

More progress. Mostly sanding. This is a huge job; Extremely messy and a lot of work.

That's as far as I've gotten with the hull. The cream being exposed is still a barrier layer and you can see the blue stripe is paint applied above the original water line so is lower than the barrier coat.

 

[Leeward Rail]

Where did you get the stands from ?
I've been considering making my own, and have yet to look into a source for the screwjack portion of the stands.

 

[reefsider]

I got them from an industrial manufacturing place up near Parry Sound Ontario. I can send you the information in a PM once I dig up the receipt. They were pretty affordable and that's in Canadian dollars so you might want the whole thing not just the screw jack part.

 

[Slartibartfass]

YOU NEED TO PUT A CHAIN BETWEEN THE STANDS THAT HOLD THE BOAT ON EITHER SIDE FOR SAFTEY. OTHERWISE THEY MIGHT FAIL/MOVE TO THE OUTSIDE AND THE BOAT COMES CRASHING DOWN!

 

[pclarksurf]

Also:

http://www.scaffoldmart.com/?gclid=CN7a_JXf084CFVKEfgod6voEsw

Look for marine products off their main page-- I ordered these to go with my used brownells-- very pleased.

 

[reefsider]

The boat stand are secured together with heavy duty ratchet tie downs. I talked to the manufacturer of the stands and they told me it was completely safe. On these stands the hooks are part of the top pivot/pad holder.

Tha stands were $100 CAD which is pretty hard to beat.

 

[Leeward Rail]

$100 CAD each. Not bad at all. I'd love the info from that receipt.

I had been looking at the screw jack system that attaches to the trailer frame so you can lift and service the hull in place on the trailer. It's just over $500 usd.

Using heavy cargo straps between the pads sounds like good setup compared to the typical chains you see. Though, UV damage would be a risk later I assume.

 

[kito]

Also:

http://www.scaffoldmart.com/?gclid=CN7a_JXf084CFVKEfgod6voEsw

Look for marine products off their main page-- I ordered these to go with my used brownells-- very pleased.

I was going to order from them but the larger stands that I needed had to be freight shipped. Cost more to ship than the stands itself. Same with Defender. I ended up ordering a Brownell from West Marine and had it "ship to store" for free for about $210.

 

[Leeward Rail]

I was going to order from them but the larger stands that I needed had to be freight shipped. Cost more to ship than the stands itself. Same with Defender. I ended up ordering a Brownell from West Marine and had it "ship to store" for free for about $210.

That's the same issue here. Even moreso in Canada where companies like UPS extort you when bringing it over the border.
I usually have things shipped to the border from a company that gives free shipping, then drive to the border to pick it up.