Trip to Europe (and back) begins

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
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Not likely in a straight line.
At his present location, he is about 20nm from a consistent 6 knots. That could be enough wind to give him windvane steerage.

Unfortunately, he is under the influence of a Low Cell off the North West corner Spain. The Cell is dissipating. So too are the winds. It means calm if not nearly flat seas. Sunny skies. Clear nights but diminishing winds.
 
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dLj

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Mar 23, 2017
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Belliure 41 Back in the Chesapeake
Enough for the windvane to steer?
In general no, unfortunately. Hand steering for the night... I do have an adjustable break on my wheel so I set it such that I can still turn the wheel, but it's stiff. I can usually get an adjustment where the boat goes close enough to the rumb line needing adjustment every couple minutes. Makes for some relief...

dj
 

dLj

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Mar 23, 2017
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Not likely in a straight line.
At his present location, he is about 20nm from a consistent 6 knots. That could be enough wind to give him windvane steerage.

Unfortunately, he is under the influence of a Low Cell off the North West corner Spain. The Cell is dissipating. So too are the winds. It means calm if not nearly flat seas. Sunny skies. Clear nights but diminishing winds.
All correct. We've been looking at heading more to that wind but I'm not sure how long it's going to last. Might just be easier to stick to the route.

Thoughts?

dj
 
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Feb 11, 2017
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On Windy all the models seem to agree that it will be light for the next couple of days but picking up out of the North Monday mid to late in the day. If it was me, I would make some Northing now so I wasn't bucking into it closing the coast.
 
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dLj

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Mar 23, 2017
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On Windy all the models seem to agree that it will be light for the next couple of days but picking up out of the North Monday mid to late in the day. If it was me, I would make some Northing now so I wasn't bucking into it closing the coast.
I"m currently about 175 nm from the entrance to Lisbon. At my current speed of about 5 knots, that's 35 hours - or a bit after midnight Sunday night going into Monday. I could head a bit further north to take more time and get in later, or slow down a bit and get in later. In either case, I should be arriving prior to the wind shift on the Monday mid to late day. Of course, how close to right will Windy be.... I would prefer to arrive in the early morning Monday morning so that I have all the day going in and full daylight. Should be pretty spectacular watching Lisbon have the sun rise over the city while coming in...

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jviss

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Feb 5, 2004
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Tartan 3800 20 Westport, MA
Where will you berth in Lisbon? (I've been there, it's a great city!)
 

DArcy

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Feb 11, 2017
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Islander Freeport 36 Ottawa
I was in Lisbon about 30 years ago, it is a great city to explore. Enjoy!
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
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CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Your on top of the situation. I like your idea of arriving after Daybreak. Should make for some great photos.
Safe Sail
 

dLj

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Mar 23, 2017
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Belliure 41 Back in the Chesapeake
Where will you berth in Lisbon? (I've been there, it's a great city!)
I"m actually looking to go to Seixal. It's across the river from Lisbon. I was told it's a great spot for the boat, inexpensive and there is a ferry very close by that goes into Lisbon. That's the current plan anyway.

But if anyone has suggestions - I'm all ears. I've only been to Lisbon by car, never by boat.

dj
 

JamesG161

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Feb 14, 2014
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Hunter 430 Waveland, MS
Hand steering
Use a couple of tied lines to the Wheel to hold course.

Your Spanish should be handy there. [Rhumb line , the "H" is silent in Spanish]

Portugal is famous for its Wine Corks.

Seixal was famous for Wooden Ship Building.

Jim...

PS: I speak Spanish too. I was told if you hold your tongue while speaking Spanish = Portuguese.:pimp:
 

dLj

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Mar 23, 2017
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Belliure 41 Back in the Chesapeake
Use a couple of tied lines to the Wheel to hold course.

Your Spanish should be handy there. [Rhumb line , the "H" is silent in Spanish]

Portugal is famous for its Wine Corks.

Seixal was famous for Wooden Ship Building.

Jim...

PS: I speak Spanish too. I was told if you hold your tongue while speaking Spanish = Portuguese.:pimp:
I have a break on my wheel. Holding one position doesn't work. Waves, currents, more make a set rudder position not a set rhumb line position. I could only wish. Then I could simply lock my wheel and it would never wander...

I typically do pretty well with my Spanish talking with Portuguese. Not perfect but usually we can understand each other.

I knew about the corks, I did not know about Seixal being famous for wooden Ship Building...

dj
 

jviss

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Feb 5, 2004
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Tartan 3800 20 Westport, MA
I"m actually looking to go to Seixal. It's across the river from Lisbon. I was told it's a great spot for the boat, inexpensive and there is a ferry very close by that goes into Lisbon. That's the current plan anyway.

But if anyone has suggestions - I'm all ears. I've only been to Lisbon by car, never by boat.

dj
There's a great restaurant/bar there, I will try to recall where exactly. But a real "destination" place for visitors.
 
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JamesG161

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Feb 14, 2014
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typically do pretty well with my Spanish talking with Portuguese. Not perfect but usually we can understand each other.
Ha, ha, they speak Portuguese there!
I went to Brazil for 2 week, when I knew Spanish also.

We communicated well also.:ass:

Example: 20 = veinte [bain tay] or = vinte [ been chi ]

Aka Jaime
 
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dLj

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Mar 23, 2017
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Here's their 1355 EDT position from yesterday. Not sure why there's no update since then.
View attachment 219740
Neither do I, I'll have to go check if the device got turned off.

Oh yeah, it ran out of battery..it's now plugged back in.

Current coordinates:

38 20.820 N. 11 11.674 W.

dj

p.s. we are about 84 nm from the coast. We are in light winds and no one wants to turn the motor back on. We were sailing along quite nicely before the wind died. The quiet is very nice...
 
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dLj

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Mar 23, 2017
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Just got some more light wind. Pushing us along at about two knots. But we are happy with that. We actually need to slow down to arrive in daylight rather than the middle of the night.

Just checked my fuel levels. Rather surprised we still have about 3/4 full tanks. I was thinking we'd be closer to 1/2. But that is my conservative side showing....

dj