Northwest - Puget Sound Storm

[jssailem]

You box wine guys remind me of high school Thunderbird, wine coolers etc.

It was not my finest experience.

I now prefer 14 hands, st Michelle, or Willamette Vineyards - a merlot, Cab, or Pinot. Much better.

 

[Mark Maulden]

Well John, I totally agree. And throw in some Argentine Mendoza Malbecs, some Leonetti and Quilceda Creek and L'Ecole.....The problem becomes one of bottle storage and disposal especially if you're out for awhile without marinas. Take a trip to the Broughtons and absolutely no garbage disposal without a days sail to Pt. McNeil. Recyclables limited to cans.. So, sometimes you just have to adapt. Buy box-toss the cardboard and stow the bags.....

 

[jssailem]

You got a point. Though I'm not crazy about the Malbec.
The ones I've tasted have an off taste. I hear the Canadians limit the number of bottles one can bring over the border, does that include boxes?

 

[Hello Below]

I hear the Canadians limit the number of bottles one can bring over the border,

To the best of my knowledge you can bring unlimited bottles/boxes of wine over either border, US or Canadian. But it may cost big time with the addition of duty and federal excise taxes. The duty free allowance into Canada however is limited to 1.5 Litres (53 imperial oz) of wine or 1.14 litres (40 oz) of liquor or a 24 of beer . . . as long as the total value is less than $800 (Cdn). I think entering the US is limited to 1 Litre of alcohol but is state dependent. So in answer to your question for example, one 3L box of wine would be duty free into Canada if there are 2 persons aboard over the age of 19.

 

[jssailem]

So what your saying, If you want to bring wine to share with friends, you either have to pay duty or bring your friends with you. That must really impact the idea of bringing wine to share with new friends.
If you wanted to cross the border and meet cute Canadian women that would really put a crimp in the pickup line, "Would you like to share a bottle of wine?"

 

[Mark Maulden]

We've crossed both borders with excess amounts. Just state that its "ships stores". The border agents are pretty understanding that the itinerary doesnt always follow consumption (or vice versa) as long as its not huge amounts with short itineraries that can raise flags..The main thing is DO NOT LIE ABOUT IT. Stock up in Canada if you're gonna be there for awhile..Jackson Triggs is usually a decent box wine in Canada...

 

[DaveJ]

...one 3L box of wine would be duty free into Canada if there are 2 persons aboard over the age of 19.

Technically not true. The limit is 1.5L each, you cannot 'team up' and share a larger bottle.
On Lake Ontario I cross the border a couple of times a year, sometimes when entering US waters I am asked on the video phone if I have alcohol on board, I respond "yes, bar stock". I have never been questioned on this. We usually have a couple opened bottles of liquor and maybe a bottle or 2 of wine and although I don't specify, I do admit to having them.
Has worked for me, not suggesting anyone else try it.....

Cheers

 

[Hello Below]

Technically not true. The limit is 1.5L each

Good question for the CBSA next time through. I have always then misinterpreted the statement (Re: Up to 1.5 Litres* of wine) on their webpage: "*Bottle sizes vary, but the amounts listed are firm." I did not realize that the container was part of the equation. Thanks.

 

[Mark Maulden]

I've always "teamed up". Its always been "how many people"and how much in totality. No discussion on who "owns" what...

 

[shemandr]

You can use the bladders from the box wines (At least some Brands) to re-fill with water and freeze to put in the bottom of your ice boxes or coolers. When they unfreeze use the water for coffee or whatever.

 

[Chevy1217]

Well I just got the estimated amount of Damage the storm cause me it was 8000 and some change boy I will tell all of you. Please always make sure you have full coverage insurance it is the only way you can protect your investment Uk Sails loft will be making me a passage maker sail a new 135 it is truly amazing on what wind can do just about everything on the Forstay was damaged the track for the sail the spool on the fuller and even a 3/8 stainless wire was damaged suck if I didn't have insurance I would never be able to sail with a Jib AGIAN so the moral of the story is everyone please get full coverage Protect yourself and your wallet.

 

[Terry Cox]

Buy box-toss the cardboard and stow the bags.....

Noooo! When cruising north where trash disposal resources become almost nonexistent, we go ashore to burn the plastics, cardboard, etc. Lagoon Cove, for example, has a burn barrel, as do others. One of the reasons why box wine is my preference.

 

[Terry Cox]

Good question for the CBSA next time through. I have always then misinterpreted the statement (Re: Up to 1.5 Litres* of wine) on their webpage: "*Bottle sizes vary, but the amounts listed are firm." I did not realize that the container was part of the equation. Thanks.

Hi Len, been through many times always with way more than my allowed allotment. The most important thing is full disclosure, but DO NOT offer anything more, period. So, at Bedwell, for example, I call the agent from the ring down phone and she answers. After the basics we get to alcohol. Keep in mind she has others waiting in queue so time is important.

I begin with the small (.750 or smaller) open bottles of this and that; Black Label scotch, Captain Morgans rum, Courvoisier cognac, E&J brandy, Canadian Club whisky, etc.. This takes some time. You can sense she wants to move on. Okay, I have ten bottles of beer in the fridge. Is that all? I also have an open box wine (it's a full five liter, but I have cracked the seal). The most important factor I tell her is everything I have will be consumed on board by guests that I am traveling with. Good. She may ask again if that is all. I pause to think and then say I do have two unopened box wines. Just a minute, she says, while she goes off line to consult with a Prime Minister or somebody.

She comes back on line and says that I have more than my allowed allotment, but I assure her I plan to consume all on board during our two month cruise. She says okay and then releases me with my clearance number. Thank you. (We ran out of time and I was unable to tell her that I had two cases of beer in the bilge).

Where I have gotten into trouble before in the early years of crossing was when I gave the agent a sense of being evasive. Be crisp and precise. It is not a couple of beers in the fridge, it is six. Also, it becomes a real hassle for agents to deal with duty on items above the allowed allotment. This takes time to gather credit card information, determine the amount, etc. They will avoid this step even if you happily offer to pay duty.

And what was this thread about?

 

[Terry Cox]

Well I just got the estimated amount of Damage the storm cause me it was 8000 and some change

Ouch! A happy ending, though.

 

[Mark Maulden]

Terry, I fully agree. My mindset was when in Nanaimo, Ganges, Ladysmith, Pender Hbr and the like

 

[Terry Cox]

Terry, I fully agree. My mindset was when in Nanaimo, Ganges, Ladysmith, Pender Hbr and the like

Pretty pathetic when your wine selection is based on the ability to burn the container, don't you think? I suppose my next selection rationale will be the ability to eat the container after consuming the contents. Hmm, rice paper anyone?