New to me o’day mariner 19’

May 1, 2022
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o’day mariner 19 Lake Wissota
Hey everyone, I just picked up a 19’ mariner and I’m just looking for literally any advice on where to get started with it. It hasn’t been in the water in over 2 years. It seems to be well taken care of. It has 2 sets of sails one being fairly new. And a 2hp outboard. And all of the gear, ropes and accessories I could ever need. I paid $1200. I’m in the process of cleaning it up right now and am trying to see where I should start to bring it back to its glory days. I know almost nothing about sailboats but I’m excited to learn everything I can squeeze into my thick skull.
 

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May 1, 2022
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o’day mariner 19 Lake Wissota
Sorry about the double pics this forum is also new. Go ahead and roast me if need be.
 

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Oct 22, 2014
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CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Hi Girth, Welcome to the forum.
Cleaned up the extra images for you.
Looks like a great find. She will get you on the water having fun.
The first actions would be to examine the boat to be sure she is water tight and will not sink. Put the 2 hp engine in a tank of water and test to see if it works. I used a trash can filled with water, to test and tune my 2hp motor.

Raise the mast and put the best sails up on her. I did that in my driveway with my pocket yacht. I chose a calm day which allowed me to do the task with out any drama.

Personal thoughts would be to put it in the water and try out sailing her as soon as sure she will float. You really do not know what to prioritize till you have had some experience with her.

Give her a name and splash a little beverage christening her. Make a list or two then prioritize them. Once ready go to work. I believe in letting a little time with the boat makes me smart about what the boat needs.

Fair winds and have FUN!
 
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May 1, 2022
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o’day mariner 19 Lake Wissota
Hi Girth, Welcome to the forum.
Cleaned up the extra images for you.
Looks like a great find. She will get you on the water having fun.
The first actions would be to examine the boat to be sure she is water tight and will not sink. Put the 2 hp engine in a tank of water and test to see if it works. I used a trash can filled with water, to test and tune my 2hp motor.

Raise the mast and put the best sails up on her. I did that in my driveway with my pocket yacht. I chose a calm day which allowed me to do the task with out any drama.

Personal thoughts would be to put it in the water and try out sailing her as soon as sure she will float. You really do not know what to prioritize till you have had some experience with her.

Give her a name and splash a little beverage christening her. Make a list or two then prioritize them. Once ready go to work. I believe in letting a little time with the boat makes me smart about what the boat needs.

Fair winds and have FUN!
Thanks for the help with the pic’s. Yea that little motor fires right up and runs like a champ. Any advice on standing the mast up without dropping it on my garage?
 
Feb 10, 2004
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Hunter 40.5 Warwick, RI
Thanks for the help with the pic’s. Yea that little motor fires right up and runs like a champ. Any advice on standing the mast up without dropping it on my garage?
I had a Mariner 19 once. What worked for mast stepping was for me to push the mast upright and then have my wife and kids attach the stays. Head stay first then the side shrouds.
 
May 25, 2012
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john alden caravelle 42 sturgeon bay, wis
sailing is like a chess match with mother nature. no two sails are alike.

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. buy this book and read and reread. it has all the rules of the game. the game of sailing

boat maint. that's another story. you will want to dial in the vessel as per the rules.
enjoy the game.

jon:cool:
 
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Oct 19, 2017
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O'Day Mariner 19 Littleton, NH
Hi Girth,
Welcome to the forum. You are going to become an expert sailor, if you stick with these guys. There is about a thousand years of sailing experience here.

Your new-to-you Mariner is a beauty. She looks to be around the same year as mine, '73. The hull number should be etched into the transom on the starboard side of the rudder. That will have the year and production number coded in it, if you don't already know her age. Hull ID Help - Mariner Class Association

Step one: (Just as JS said) make sure she will float. Easily said, harder to do. - Inspect the hull for cracks, soft spots, especially around the centerboard trunk. Mine came with a sloppy repair around the forward connection with the boat bottom. The cockpit is self-bailing. That simply means there are scuppers that drain water back into the sea. The Mariner does this through two scuppers located in the outboard forward corners of the cockpit sole. These are connected by half-inch tubing to thru-hulls on either side of the centerboard trunk, about a foot out from center. You can inspect these parts, especially the hoses, from below, just behind the companionway on either side. Mine fell apart in my hand when I pulled on them. If they are old enough to be original, replace them or you will have two half-inch holes in the bottom, letting water pour in. Another place for water ingress is the CB (centerboard) pin. This should be a 3/4" brass bolt, low, through the forward sides of the CB trunk. There might be heavy rubber washers both between bolthead and trunk, and between nut on the other side and the trunk. There is usually a pair of rubber washers also inside the trunk between the cast iron CB and the trunk. Inspect. If everything looks water tight, you have options for the next part.

Inspecting the centerboard: The easiest way to see if the centerboard is not swollen with corrosion and stuck in the trunk is to launch the boat and try and drop the cb into the down position, but to actually look at it, you will also need to go swimming. Your other option is to pick the boat up off the trailer so you can drop the board on land. I won't go into ways to do that unless you need that advice specifically.

Raising the mast is not difficult on a Mariner. I did it easily by myself the day I brought mine home. But, I caution you to be sure she is secure in her ways. Hitch the trailer to a vehicle, keep the trailer straps on her. Don't walk around on deck if she could canter backwards, either lifting the tongue of the trailer or rocking her stern down to the ground and lifting her bow in the air.

Straighten her stays and clear any loops or possible kinks in the cables. Lay her turnbuckles in line with the aft folded mast, and make sure the forestay is on top and clear of entanglement. From the cockpit, fit the step pins that stick out to either side of the mast foot into the slots of the tabernacle. You can carefully lay the mast back across the transom and walk forward to be sure the pins are in place. Then return to the back of the cockpit and lift, press the mast up to your shoulders. Scan the stays to be sure they aren't caught or about to be, then walk the mast up, watching your shrouds, the side stays, all the way up to the cabin. This is where you hop up onto the cockpit benches and onto the top.

I hope you closed the hatch before you got to this point. You won't enjoy falling into the cabin if you step wrong. Keep going until the mast is upright. If your shrouds, the side stays, are adjusted close to the right length, they should tighten up as the mast comes to vertical, but not keep you from coming all the way upright. Keep an eye on those turnbuckles. They can sometimes get twisted and the leverage of a twenty-four foot mast can bend them out of shape against the chain plates (the steel plates that hold the turnbuckles to the hull). Be patient and don't hesitate to lower the mast again to straighten everything back out, if something falls out of place.

Once the mast is vertical, be sure the tension on the shrouds is enough that the mast won't fall sideways. Now catch the dangling forestay and pull it tight, walking it to the bow. On level ground or at the dock, in water, this shouldn't require a lot of strength. So, if the forestay isn't long enough to catch the bow plate, you will have to adjust the turnbuckle or start over with an extention. If the backstay is pulled tight, but the forestay won't reach, adjust the backstay all the way out and try again.

There are a lot of guides and ideas to rig tuning. You will want to read up on that before you go for a sail. These directions are just to raise the mast, not on properly tensioning the rigging. I don't find it hard to do, that is essentially how I did it on my old Hobie, as well.

Another early step is to join the Mariner Class Association. I think the membership is still about $5 and includes a $5 discount for BoatUS membership. Here is the address. They are also a great group of sailors. https://www.usmariner.org
Another site worth checking out is: O'Day Mariner #1922 "Orion"

So glad to have you join us here. I will be happy to answer any questions you may have. I own a Mariner, but my sailing experience is on other boats. I'm still waiting for the time to fix mine.

-Will
 
Jan 19, 2010
12,553
Hobie 16 & Rhodes 22 Skeeter Charleston
If you are planning on camping on the boat, space becomes a real balancing act. You want to pack what you are going to need but nothing else.

Some tips: If it is just one or two nights, then pack food that does not need to be cooked. Leave your camping stove at home. If you NEEEED coffee a one burner camping stove will heat water fast, FRENCH PRESS. Freeze water bottles in advance and use that as your ice for your ice chest. CITRONELLA CANDLEs.

One of these for your anchor rode... you can get 100' of 1/2 line on one of these but you should stow them as two 25' pieces and one 50' piece with an eye splice and a shackle.
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A hand held VHF and then load the Navoinics app, windy app and the tides app on your phone.

I didn't see any cushions in your boat. I think your boat is too small to carry a lot of cushions all of the time. They take up a lot of room and the only time you get in the cabin is to sleep or to get out of the rain. Get some dependable air mattresses and sleep on those. They are more comfortable and you can stow them away when you are not using them.
 
Oct 4, 2010
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Pearson 323 Rockland
Your post took me back to the time between 1980 and 1995 when I owned a Mariner. Sailed it on Casco Bay in Maine. My boat had a porta-potty in the area between the forward berths. A previous owner seems to have added some support for the deck instead. I'd check that deck to see if it is soft.
It's a fun, safe boat. I'd be surprised if you were ever able to wet the rail because it has a very strong righting movement if you get overpowered. Big cockpit, with benches long enough to stretch out.

I can confirm that the mast is easy to raise. Connect the side shrouds and the back stay and walk the mast forward, allowing a second hand to connect the forestay. Do it while it's still secured to the trailer and vehicle. Reverse when you pull it out. It actually makes you popular with the others at the launch because you do all of your machinations in the parking lot.

I powered it with a six horse outboard, but mostly because I could be out in the bay when wind died. Tide went out on me once and it rested neatly on the mud until I once again had a foot of water under her.

Do check out the centerboard and its line well because corrosion can be an issue. The boat isn't that heavy and you can build a "gallows" arrangement of 2x4's in a tall sawhorse arrangement to which you can attach a large strap to a strong winch and lift it enough to gain some clearance for a smaller sawhorse with a thick strap for a top (with side supports to keep it solid).

I recall the interior fiberglass as being rough, but lighter in color than yours. Check to see if there's an issue causing the discoloring.

The Mariner was the least expensive and easiest to keep boat I have owned. While the rest of us are on dry land doing maintenance, you can be on the water in an amazing range of locations. Get some good camping mattresses, a Coleman Stove and a porta-potty and you'll be good to sail and camp anywhere!
 
Oct 19, 2017
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O'Day Mariner 19 Littleton, NH
I recall the interior fiberglass as being rough, but lighter in color than yours. Check to see if there's an issue causing the discoloring.
What the OP has is a removed vinyl wall liner and that glue is notoriously hard to clean off.

I suggest a two part epoxy paint after sanding as best as you can. If it is bothersome. Mine still has the liner, but it looks ragged and the edges are peeling, so That will be the route I may someday take.

-Will
 
Jan 19, 2010
12,553
Hobie 16 & Rhodes 22 Skeeter Charleston
A way to cover the rough fiberglass is with exterior grade carpet tile. Nice stuff, easy to work with. All you need is a sharp box knife. If you alternate the direction of the pattern, the missmatch looks intentional and you don't have to fret lining up the runs.

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Jan 19, 2010
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@Will Gilmore is right though, you will need to knock that glue down a bit first. A rubber wheel or a whire wheel on a cordless drill will do the trick.