+10Kermit, what you are referring to is spelled wEnches... and you cannot keep them after you have spent your money!
+10Kermit, what you are referring to is spelled wEnches... and you cannot keep them after you have spent your money!
simple.... get an auto/tiller pilot, or wheel/tiller lock if you're short of funds, set your course, engage the steering device and take your damn time using both hands to trim up that headsail.
I bought 2 pair of winches from WM during the Lewmar bogo(2 for 1) promotion, they were also having a triple advantage rewards promo.. so... even though I didn't really need them, cause the old barlow 2 speed standards were in fine condition, I had the money and just couldn't resist. So... a pair of 2 speed ST Lewmar 30's, and a pair of single speed ST Lewmar 15's, retail about $3500, I paid $1700 and I got 12%($200) back via the advantage rewards... Net cost around 1500!!! You'll never find a deal like that on ebay or craig's list.I have looked at ebay for used winches. Seems winches hold their price well, so I'm not seeing any super bargains. Nothing that has made me want to jump on them. I've heard that West Marine has a "Buy one-get one free" winch sale in March. I know that sounds to good to be true, but worth waiting for to see. I've even spent time looking on Craigslist, concentrating on East Coast states that might have newer salvage boats (boats likely to have self-tailing winches). I'll be doing more reading on winchers too. Do they make a standard winch a self-tailer, no. Are they helpful, yes. Just need more info on them.
That is a good but strong statement.you wont get your money back when you go to sell it.
The 30's are perfect for my boat.... I you were racing in big air with an oversized genoa... perhaps there would be value in upsizing to a 40... They're not gonna break. If you need extra power, you shift to a longer winch handle. The gear ratios on my Lewmar 30's are 2:1 and 3.8:1. compare to the old barlow;s which were 1;1 and 3;1.... The barlows worked faster and I had a 10" palm handle winch for more power. I've found the Lewmar's lower gearing makes it slower operating and the power is more than I normally need, so I've invested in an 8" palm grip winch handle... if they made a 5 or a 6" I'd use that.Joe,
Sound like the WM "2for" is the real deal. I noticed you bought 2 Lewmar 30ST. Your bio mentions a Catalina 27. Were the 30ST for the Catalina 27? Reason for asking. Lewmar lists 30ST for a 28 foot boat, but it is the upper limit. In walking some of the local marina's I've seen 27/28 footer with both 30ST and 40ST. The 40ST were very common on Catalina 27's. I know Catalina keeps an eye on cost and I'm sure they bought 40ST's and used them on 27's ,28's, 30's, and 31's. How have your 30ST's worked on the Catalina 27. Are they strong enough? I know bigger is better, but there is a budget involved.
If you are sailing to get your money back, sell your boat now. It is worth less every day, so cut your loss. Yes, BOAT means Break Out Another Thousand. I do it happily because my boat is an act of love for myself. It supports my desire to grow, learn, venture, teach, etc. We can set limits. But we can also spend judiciously. New sails to replace 30 year old sails is a judicious move for someone who is interested in reaping the reward.Save your money, boats are the biggest money grabbers out there! Just keep it minimal because you wont get your money back when you go to sell it.
Good answer. That was one of two head scratcher comments in this thread.That is a good but strong statement.
Is it always about getting your money back out of a hobby you choose to enjoy?
I bought a guitar once. I do not think I could sell it for what I paid for it. I do enjoy playing it.