They were cutter rigs, so that's different.
-Will (Dragonfly)
Name this Sailboat!
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They were cutter rigs, so that's different.
-Will (Dragonfly)
If you could at least measure the overall length & beam of the boat, that would help to narrow down the options.
Can you post a picture of the boat title. It should have the info you need and people here know how to decode it.
Hello and Welcome Unknown Flotsam,
Free is good! Lots of boat for the money! As mentioned....check the mainsail for an insignia, measure the boat's length overall and beam, check the registration (and register the boat in your name). Ask around the marina for information from people who hauled, blocked, or worked on the boat. NOTE: When you register the boat you will probably need to give some sort of valuation for state tax purposes. That will be tough to do without the information you are seeking.
Definitely spend the money to have the boat surveyed by a respected boat surveyor. That will provide a knowledgeable person to help you identify the boat, and she (he) will give you a valuable list of repairs recommended and the maintenance the boat needs. That would be especially valuable to you as new to sailing.
RE: boat make/model...… With a flashlight stick your head under cabinets, in lockers, under v berth, quarter berths, in any hidden space you can access to see whether there is any information jotted there. Sometimes models, etc. are written on parts for use during construction.
Finally, locate the tiller! It would be tough to "sail" using just the extension on the outboard motor.
Free is good! Lots of boat for the money! As mentioned....check the mainsail for an insignia, measure the boat's length overall and beam, check the registration (and register the boat in your name). Ask around the marina for information from people who hauled, blocked, or worked on the boat. NOTE: When you register the boat you will probably need to give some sort of valuation for state tax purposes. That will be tough to do without the information you are seeking.
Definitely spend the money to have the boat surveyed by a respected boat surveyor. That will provide a knowledgeable person to help you identify the boat, and she (he) will give you a valuable list of repairs recommended and the maintenance the boat needs. That would be especially valuable to you as new to sailing.
RE: boat make/model...… With a flashlight stick your head under cabinets, in lockers, under v berth, quarter berths, in any hidden space you can access to see whether there is any information jotted there. Sometimes models, etc. are written on parts for use during construction.
Finally, locate the tiller! It would be tough to "sail" using just the extension on the outboard motor.
So we all seem to agree it’s a tiller boat w/ a reverse transom. Probably a masthead rig, in the neighborhood of 30 to 32 ft that may be a racer/cruiser design last registered in WashingtoN state evidently through 2010. The centered cleat fwd should be informative as well. It appears rigged to carry a spinnaker judging from the aft turning blocks and the pair of winches on each side of the cockpit. But I believe that is a whisker pole on the deck.
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When I look up the HIN #, it says its a “Washington Homemade Boat” as the manufacture. My guess is that since the real HIN is missing (not on the boat anywhere, trust me), the owner before the guy I got it from recreated the HIN.
Will, you might have hit the nail on the head! It looks very very similar to an Allied Chance 30-30!
There are a few differences/changes. The 30-30 has 3 small windows, mine has 2, and the tiller is in a different location. The mast goes all the way through the cabin in a 30-30, mine does not. The interior is looking similar too. From what it looking like, it seems like a weird version of a Chance 30-30. The hull/bow section (looking at the side profile) on my boat is flat or straight for the most part. It seems like the Chance 30-30 has a slight rise to the bow.
Thanks for the help everyone. Getting close I think... Anymore ideas?
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Were either the Chance or Cal sold as bare hulls? If so that would account for the home made boat listing. If I recall correctly the requirement for boats to have HINs did start until 1972. If the hull was sold before 1972 and not completed until 1974 it may not have a molded in HIN.
It looks like, from what I have been able to discover, she is an old IOR boat of the 1/2 ton class, if she is about 30' in length. The Cal doesn't have the right transom. There were a few boats, like the Tartan and the Bristol and the Yankee 30, with similar portlight layout, but non have the mast mounted so close to the front of the cabin trunk.
-Will (Dragonfly)
This may be the hammer that hit the nail on the head.
-Will (Dragonfly)
I did a sear for Washington Homemade Boats and it looks like it was the name of a builder. Here is the URL
https://www.yachtingjournal.com/directory/boats/builder-wnz
It could be a much older boat that had no HIN and was abandoned and in order to get a title, they had to document it as a homemade boat. I did something similar with a trailer once.
https://www.yachtingjournal.com/directory/boats/builder-wnz
It could be a much older boat that had no HIN and was abandoned and in order to get a title, they had to document it as a homemade boat. I did something similar with a trailer once.
One place to look are old business directories. They can probably be found in state college or university libraries.
The name of the company does lend some support to it being a bare hull that was finished at home.
The name of the company does lend some support to it being a bare hull that was finished at home.
It really does not look like a home built boat to me. Way too professional. It would be very expensive to build the mold for the deck alone, for a one-off boat, never mind the hull. The rounded cabin top is reminiscent of European boats.
Down below it looks as if it was an owner finished boat, but that could be deceptive, from the pictures.
I wish you luck, but there is a saying that there is no such thing as a free boat, so go forward carefully. Before you know it, you can have a lot more in a 'free' boat than it is worth, both in time and money.
Down below it looks as if it was an owner finished boat, but that could be deceptive, from the pictures.
I wish you luck, but there is a saying that there is no such thing as a free boat, so go forward carefully. Before you know it, you can have a lot more in a 'free' boat than it is worth, both in time and money.
There was a fad in the 70s and 80s when you could order a hull and deck built in a factory and then the owner could complete the interior. I wasn't suggesting that the hull and deck were home built. For example, I think Corbin yachts were sold as hull and deck with owner finishing it. Ben Zartman did just that and has blogged about it (http://www.zartmancruising.com/chronological-blog/) although it was not a Corbin.
Ah ha! The two holes in the stern of the boat is a magnetohydrodynamic drive. It is for when the boat plows through a wave it gains speed, but it is very silent.