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UnknownFlotsam

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Oct 25, 2018
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Miller 29 Kenmore, WA on Lake Washington
Will Gilmore said:
It looks like, from what I have been able to discover, she is an old IOR boat of the 1/2 ton class, if she is about 30' in length. The Cal doesn't have the right transom. There were a few boats, like the Tartan and the Bristol and the Yankee 30, with similar portlight layout, but non have the mast mounted so close to the front of the cabin trunk.


This may be the hammer that hit the nail on the head.

-Will (Dragonfly)
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Hmmm, so maybe it came from Allied as a Hull/Deck, then someone finished it? Since I was able to move her to my slip and get to look around some more, some of the interior looks home done. So there is a chance (get it?) that the interior is custom, as well as the a few of the outside features?

So I guess I could call it a “custom 1974 29’Allied Chance”?
 
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UnknownFlotsam

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Oct 25, 2018
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Miller 29 Kenmore, WA on Lake Washington
dlochner said:
Were either the Chance or Cal sold as bare hulls? If so that would account for the home made boat listing. If I recall correctly the requirement for boats to have HINs did start until 1972. If the hull was sold before 1972 and not completed until 1974 it may not have a molded in HIN.
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I think this is it. Many things in the interior seem to be custom. So I guess it could be a “custom 1972 29’ Allied Chance”? What’s weird though is that the Chance only comes in 30’, not 29’. But that’s from what I understand.
If it helps I was able to get the main sail up, and it had a red double triangle symbol with 29 in it. I wonder if this could help?
 

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rgranger

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Jan 19, 2010
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Hobie 16 & Rhodes 22 Skeeter Charleston
Someone on this forum posted a list of sail insignia about a year ago. So that is actually a very good lead.
 
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dlochner

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Jan 11, 2014
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Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
UnknownFlotsam said:
What’s weird though is that the Chance only comes in 30’, not 29’. But that’s from what I understand.
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Boat builders often play a little loose with measurements. Sometimes a 30 is really a 29 foot boat. And since we think it might be a Chance and not a Cal who knows what happened.
 
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rgranger

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Jan 19, 2010
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Hobie 16 & Rhodes 22 Skeeter Charleston
Your main is a bit wrinkled but otherwise still has a nice draft. And you have two sets of reef points. Once you get that set up, and the bottom cleaned (stiff brush on a pole) you should be able to have some fun
 
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rgranger

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Jan 19, 2010
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Hobie 16 & Rhodes 22 Skeeter Charleston
I can't help but believe that someone at the Washington office that keeps registration data can't help you run the titles back to the original owner. He/she might still be alive and you could simply write or call and get all kinds of background info.
 
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UnknownFlotsam

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Oct 25, 2018
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Miller 29 Kenmore, WA on Lake Washington
rgranger said:
According to sailboatdata.com. There is a Chance 29

https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/chance-2925-paceship

Here is a photo of a chance 30. The sail insignia is not the same..

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Yeah the insignia’s are different, and I don’t see it in the directory either. I’ll keep looking for the right insignia.

I’ll definitely ask the licensing office if they can track the title and registration back.

Thanks again for the help!
 
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Chip Handewith

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Oct 28, 2015
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Hunter Legend 37.5 Edmonds
its a Miller 29, manufactured on Banbrige Island WA. Earl Miller built these in the mid 70s. i own one.yes most defiantly an old IOR design. we were told he made most of them as unfinished interiors but with complete rigs. no stern tubes on mine but I have been told he made a total of 14, every one being different. he also made a more popular 28', the reason for the tumble-home and raked transom, he made the cabin top from the 28' fit the 29' hull. i can send more pictures and specifications when I get home tonight.
 

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Jul 27, 2011
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Bavaria 38E Alamitos Bay
Hooray!! I was about to suggest investigating the sail number for a clue. I notice yours is in a similar range as the one he showed; 39986 vs 39590.
 
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Jun 9, 2015
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Morgan 35 1ton barrie
Looks very much like a Morgan 1/2 ton early 70's... I owned a 35 1-Ton tiller that had a very similar transom detail with the 2 man-over rocket launchers., stanchion bases are identical, track positioning is similar, and has the same cabin entry coach-house angle. If the keel is swept back design and the rudder is sweptback also, I'd be more inclined to call it Morgan.
 
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Hobie 16 & Rhodes 22 Skeeter Charleston
Lets circle back to the HIN. Wouldn't Mr Miller need to put a HIN on the boat? Why does the HIN indicate a home made boat? @Chip Handewith, does your Miller have a HIN that indicates that it is a Miller or does it have WNZ for homemade?
 
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