Ideal trailerable sailboat - theoretical approach

philwsailz · Nov 13, 2012

Bosman said:
I personally do not like the lines of 26RK, nor its interior finish. It just looks and feels like it belongs to the past. Price is close to $80000 US for 2008 model
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2008/Seaward-26RK-2274563/Channel-Islands-Harbor/CA/United-States

But everyone is entitled to their opinion. I like modern looking boats.

Agreed. For all it's clever design, the interior looks as if feature placement were via paintball. I might change my mind if I toured one but to my eye, the interior is cluttered

sesmith · Nov 14, 2012

Bosman said:
Price is close to $80000 US for 2008 model
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2008/Seaward-26RK-2274563/Channel-Islands-Harbor/CA/United-States

Doubt it could go for that for a 4 year old used one, but that depends on what someone is willing to pay, I guess.

Here's a link to a factory price list. Not sure of the year though. Everything's an extra, so it all depends on that options the boat had to begin with.

http://home.comcast.net/~seawardsailboats/26pricesheet.pdf

(I think there's an extra 0 in the trailer pricing

kenkindy1 · Nov 14, 2012

If I had to go under that bridge every time I went out I'd switch to a pontoon boat!

Benny17441 · Nov 14, 2012

Removable ballast? Great idea, take it off the boat and throw it in the tow vehicle.

THECUSCUS · Nov 14, 2012

Check out the Presto 30. A bit pricey new, but a used one ( if there are any) should fit your specs.

aviatorjames · Nov 23, 2012

Copied from the other post...

Like anything, sailboat design is a balance of compromise & capability.
Differing designs simply reflect the architect's priorities.

It is you that must decide what your own priorities are.
I suggest sketching out what you intend to do with your yacht.

I'm a die-hard trailer-sailor, so the practical elements of trailering, rigging & launching float to the top of the "features" list ...for me.

...if the boat is so heavy you need a monster truck to drag it around, you have to accept that.:neutral:
...if it takes you three hours to rig before launching, you have to accept that.
...if you can't ramp launch her and need a lift, that severely limits where you can explore and you have to accept that.:cry:

You get my point...
I see "large" yachts sitting on trailers that rarely get wet because it's too much of a hassle!

Remember, the idea is to go SAILING !!
So make sure you end up with something (anything) that will maximize that end!!
The other compromises you make will seem less important...
...because you'll be SAILING !!!:dance:

Having said all that, I will throw out the design that best fits MY CURRENT sailing profile...

The Capri 22

-Dry dock her on the side of my garage...
-Easy-peasy to trailer with my Honda Ridgeline...
-Rigged and down the ramp in an hour + 15...
-Adequate for one or two nights afloat...
-Good performance with nimble, dinghy-like maneuverability...
-Huge cockpit for comfortable sailing with friends...
-STILL in production... (a testament to value!)

...I rest my case!!

-JAMES-
"Bella Barchetta"

watercolors II · Nov 23, 2012

Absolutely wonderful videos!

aviatorjames - I see in your first video when your main is reefed that the leech grommet is not pulled down tight to the top of the boom like the other grommets that are making the mainsail very flat. I struggled with this set up helping other sailors when you have the reefing line pulling clear back to the end of the boom and not down to a turning block on the side of the boom directly under this grommet like the old setups.

Here’s a work-a-round, instead of tying the other end of the rear reefing line to the boom, extend it down under the boom and back up the other side and tie a slipknot over the line area that runs to the end of the boom. This loop will act as a noose that will get smaller and smaller as you pull on the reefing line. The reefing line will still pull backwards and the noose will get smaller pulling the grommet downward to the boom thus pulling the leech and the foot at the grommet very tight to the boom.

aviatorjames · Nov 23, 2012

Great idea! ...I'll try that next time out! ...Thanks!!

Is "Watercolors" her name?
...if so, I like it!

-JAMES-
"Bella Barchetta"

watercolors II · Nov 23, 2012

Retired Graphic Artist

tkanzler · Nov 25, 2012

Bosman said:
I personally do not like the lines of 26RK, nor its interior finish. It just looks and feels like it belongs to the past. Price is close to $80000 US for 2008 model
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2008/Seaward-26RK-2274563/Channel-Islands-Harbor/CA/United-States

But everyone is entitled to their opinion. I like modern looking boats.

I guess I'll be the odd man out. I like the lines of the Seaward line. Old school good looks, something modern boats don't have IMO.

The price is a bit, uh, rich for my blood, but the looks are just tops.

Sumner · Nov 25, 2012

tkanzler said:
I guess I'll be the odd man out. I like the lines of the Seaward line. Old school good looks, something modern boats don't have IMO.

The price is a bit, uh, rich for my blood, but the looks are just tops.

I like the lines and proportions of the smaller ones better than the larger/longer ones, but I'd take any of them if I wasn't writing the check.

The one above was over in the Everglades when we were. Above is New Turkey Key south of Everglades City and we also saw her the next day down at Little Shark River. A nice looking boat and loved the sound of the little diesel chugging along as they passed us,

Sum

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Delezynski · Nov 25, 2012

We have had what we consider the best trailer boat since 1993.

A Nor'Sea 27.

True, a small car can not tow it, but it is very comfortable on the trailer, or at sea, and can (and have) sail around the world.

Greg

Sail123 · Nov 26, 2012

Delezynski said:
We have had what we consider the best trailer boat since 1993.

A Nor'Sea 27.

True, a small car can not tow it, but it is very comfortable on the trailer, or at sea, and can (and have) sail around the world.

Greg

Daphne video's on you tube of this boat model and her owner are fun to watch.

LANCE ON CLOUD NINE · Dec 2, 2012

my ideal trailer sailor......3 things i wish mine had.

put galley out side of cabin - either in a pod across the transom, or with one of the cockpit seats - make the bench top open to reveal a stove and food prep area - with a built in drain and wash down.
rather than cramming in 4 small bunks, make two large comfortable beds.
well made, well sorted bow sprit with spinnaker on furler.

Jackdaw · Dec 2, 2012

The Beneteau First 25S, which is coming to the USA in the spring, meets a lot of your requirements. The ones it misses are:

swing keel (not centerboard) but helps seawothyness (CE B rated)
Inboard diesel
Beam 9.0 feet
Mast is desk stepped but would be handful to lower on the water.

We have the First 260, same boat but slightly different rig and we absolutely love it.

Discussed here in the beneteau forum.

http://forums.beneteau.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?t=146181

dlandersson · Dec 2, 2012

A seaward 26RK or 32RK if you have the bucks.

A Mac 26M new is around $30K

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