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Sep 27, 2020
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Newport 27 Westport
Builder have sail plan drawings from the boat designer?
You can always add a bit to the mast then see if the sail plan is too much... (Sort of experimentation to failure). Look at the designed sail plan. Or ask a designer to develop a sail plan if one was never done.

Working from design drawings saves the expense of buying/modifying sails to see if they will work. Of course in the golden age of sails, captains would conceive of adding a bit of mast or rig another strip of cloth to see if they could get a little more speed out of their boat.
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Very true. I just washed the bird crap off. Cut off the rotted and frayed lines. Cleaned it up a bit so atleast it dosent look abandoned. I think if I ad the missing length to the top with good reinforcement It would be better. As that is where the rigging attaches.
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
23,392
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
It would be better. As that is where the rigging attaches.
Yes is that is where the rigging attaches it would be good to return it to service. There is nothing good about rigging that is all over the place because it does not attach.
 
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Sep 27, 2020
171
Newport 27 Westport
Yes is that is where the rigging attaches it would be good to return it to service. There is nothing good about rigging that is all over the place because it does not attach.
I mean that if I have to extend it I can see why you would want to do the top not the base
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
23,392
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Spot on. You extend the top to add more sail. The base is often because of a failure. Note as you add to the top you need to add more rigging. The way a mast stands up to the pressures of a sail that is driving the boat through the water is an engineered structure. You cannot just stick more on the stick without connecting the new section of the stick to the deck with ropes or cables. You cannot just add more without considering how the additional will affect the existing mast. The mast needs to be in column without unplanned bends due to forces trying to pull the mast down.

Time to revisit your physics and trigonometry classes and do some study of sail design and how the mast is supported.
 
Sep 27, 2020
171
Newport 27 Westport
Finally. Clean and can relax on deck with getting tangled up.

Water boat is coming out to fill the tank at 4. So I'll have water again.
 
Sep 22, 2018
1,869
Hunter 216 Kingston
I think I may be missing about 16inch of my mast. Builder recommended repairing what I have. Then measure what is missing. Then at that to the top. Then reattach the mast head. Sounds doable as I believe there would be less stress at the top. Any recommendations?

I am not sure if I am missing any but better to plan ahead
I think I read that you have several sets of sails that came with the boat. Can you not measure them, determine where the boom attaches and “know” how much mast you need to make the sails you have work???
 
Sep 27, 2020
171
Newport 27 Westport
I think I read that you have several sets of sails that came with the boat. Can you not measure them, determine where the boom attaches and “know” how much mast you need to make the sails you have work???
Ty. Thay is a good idea.

Also now I have to order a new head. Mine wont pump. I have a raritan right now. Manual. But I will be getting a jabsco manual head to replace it
 
Sep 27, 2020
171
Newport 27 Westport
I'm ordering a tv for the boat. Should I do a 12v or standard? I have the ability to power either easily
 
Apr 5, 2009
3,146
Catalina '88 C30 tr/bs Oak Harbor, WA
Typically, the Raritan is a better head than the similar priced Jabsco. As long as nothing is broken, you can get a rebuild kit and be back in business.
 
Apr 5, 2009
3,146
Catalina '88 C30 tr/bs Oak Harbor, WA
Clean it. Much cheaper than replacing. You must not be a parent. I promise you that my kid presented me with much more unpleasant tasks than your head could possibly be. :poop:
 
Sep 27, 2020
171
Newport 27 Westport
Clean it. Much cheaper than replacing. You must not be a parent. I promise you that my kid presented me with much more unpleasant tasks than your head could possibly be. :poop:
I have 2 girls. But I rather have new the 20+ yrs old. Plus then I know it works. And 166 is pretty cheap
 
Jan 10, 2016
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Islander Wayfarer 37 Sloop Key West
Folks like that PHII but you'll be just fine with the Jabsco also. I just replaced one rather than rebuild and completely sympathize with you.
As for the wind generator, save your money and put it into solar and storage batteries. There are so many negatives the little power you get overnight is not worth it. The output on those things like the typical "Air" brand are always overstated. I have built several wind generators from parts and I mean literally pieces. Hand winding the coils, calculating how many turns per coil for a good cut in voltage, casting the stator and casting magnets on a steel disc...
Solar and good storage. I repeat, solar.
Actually, I have an ad on c-List trying to get rid of my old parts,
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Sep 27, 2020
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Newport 27 Westport
Folks like that PHII but you'll be just fine with the Jabsco also. I just replaced one rather than rebuild and completely sympathize with you.
As for the wind generator, save your money and put it into solar and storage batteries. There are so many negatives the little power you get overnight is not worth it. The output on those things like the typical "Air" brand are always overstated. I have built several wind generators from parts and I mean literally pieces. Hand winding the coils, calculating how many turns per coil for a good cut in voltage, casting the stator and casting magnets on a steel disc...
Solar and good storage. I repeat, solar.
Actually, I have an ad on c-List trying to get rid of my old parts,
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Solar it is then. Between that and a small gent and the inboard I. Should be fine. As it is now I run the motor 3-4hrs every 2 days at most.
 
Jan 10, 2016
127
Islander Wayfarer 37 Sloop Key West
If you don't know how to set up solar I can come by and get you started. I can show you how to set up a system you can expand. Hardest part is laying out where the panels go for full sun without obstructing sails and rigging.
 
Sep 27, 2020
171
Newport 27 Westport
If you don't know how to set up solar I can come by and get you started. I can show you how to set up a system you can expand. Hardest part is laying out where the panels go for full sun without obstructing sails and rigging.
First step...need help finding panels. I think 2. But I'll take measurements tomorrow when its light out. I have a couple ideas
 

DArcy

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Feb 11, 2017
1,771
Islander Freeport 36 Ottawa
I have 250 Watts of solar and it keeps my batteries well charged. I have no power anxiety, I just run what I need to including the inverter for the microwave or toaster.
 

dLj

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Mar 23, 2017
4,456
Belliure 41 Back in the Chesapeake
My steering set up.
That's exactly what I expected. Those are quite robust steering mechanisms, and your's looks to be in decent condition as far as I can see in this image. The difficulty, in my mind, is how do you easily move the position of this steering mechanism. You pretty much have to redesign and build a completely new steering control mechanism. I'm not saying it can't be done. It just may not be an easy thing to do. Are you going to move to a cable system? Hydraulic system? How will you set up the pulleys or piston? Are you going to modify that sector gear attached to the rubber post to accommodate your new system? Build a new attachment mechanism?

Hey, maybe you have a slick idea, I'd love to know what it is...

dj