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SFS

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Aug 18, 2015
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I wanted to replace all the screws in my cabinetry and woodwork when I put it all back together after making new soles for the H31. Went to West Marine. They didn't know what Frearson drive screws were, and I had to buy bits online.
 
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DArcy

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Feb 11, 2017
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Robertson?
I worked on a ship in Sydney, Australia that had been refit in Vancouver, Canada. I noticed a Robertson screw driver on the tool board in the engine room and the chief engineer said be careful with that, it's the only one we have. There were several #2 Robertson screws on board and he had no idea where to get another driver for them. They are very common here in Canada.
 

DougM

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Jul 24, 2005
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I like those Robertson screws. I believe they were invented by a Canadian who got frustrated with Phillips heads constantly stripping out.
I still wonder why, when doing residential electrical work, one needs a phillips, a robertson, a torx, an allen, and finally a straight blade just to put the cover on the outlet box.
Oh yes, whenever possible, mix some metric in with the SAE…
 

DArcy

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Feb 11, 2017
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One odd-ball screw head I've been using a lot at work lately is offset-cruciform, sometimes called TORQ-SET. Kind of looks like the "MorTorq" in Will's diagram. We started using them because that's what Airbus likes to use and the customer is always right.


People were trying to use regular Phillips bits in these screws and messing them up so I bought a couple boxes of the proper bits and spread them around so there would always be some available. They really are better than Phillips screws, but a pain since they are not common.
 

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SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
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@DArcy I have not used one of those. The screw image looks aluminum. I would suspect that the drive design addresses the issue of stripping the screw head in a phillips drive by putting a but more metal in the screw head to deal with the tendency to over tork the phillips screws.
 

DArcy

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Feb 11, 2017
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@DArcy I have not used one of those. The screw image looks aluminum. I would suspect that the drive design addresses the issue of stripping the screw head in a phillips drive by putting a but more metal in the screw head to deal with the tendency to over tork the phillips screws.
The image is an NAS1581 screw which is a high strength steel for structural applications. The shape of the recess allows the bit to grip a lot better than Phillips which tend to torque out and strip.
 
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Jan 4, 2006
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Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
This is the cart with the broken bolt, yes? :wink3:
Unfortunately, yes. They were none too bright back then, hence the ox IN the cart and the whole lot being dragged back to the locale where the cart was originally built. Once you got back, the bolt replacement was quick as "Bob's your uncle" or whatever the case may be in those troubled times.
 

Ward H

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Nov 7, 2011
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Recent electrical outlet repairs brought me to buy a new to me style of driver. An ECX driver.

I've used straight slot and phillips screw drivers, but they can slip when trying to tighten the wire leads. A proper ECX driver is an improvement, and speeds up the job.

Who knew I needed a new tool.
Learn something new everyday. I thought those outlet screws were a hybrid so you could use a flat blade or phillips head. Thanks John!
 
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DArcy

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Learn something new everyday. I thought those outlet screws were a hybrid so you could use a flat blade or phillips head. Thanks John!
Ya know, a #1 Robertson fits those screws very well. Until today I'd never heard of an ECX driver and don't see the need since I have always had very good success with the Robertson.
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
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don't see the need since I have always had very good success with the Robertson.
I think I understand why. You live in that country pretty much, north of the 49th Parallel. A Robertson is common up there.