Looking to replicate this transmission cable bracket.

[CSTim]

Good day all! This is my first post, but I've recieved allot of information from this site in the past

I'm looking to replicate this for my Yanmar 2GM, there isn't a part listed in the parts catalogue for this piece. I'm not sure who's boat this is, any help would be appreciated!

 

[MaryEllaRose]

The aluminum part looks suspiciously home made. It shouldn’t be too difficult to duplicate, just a piece of aluminum strap, drilled and tapped.
Tom G

 

[Ralph Johnstone]

When you close in on the photo, I'd be inclined to say the bracket is SS by the nicely rounded edges and heavy indent on the top along with the identical surface of the SS machine screws.

Oddly enough, it's the striated surface of the of the piece of flat bar between the shifter cable and support arm :

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................ that are very likely aluminum.

I'd check with McMaster Carr or Amazon for a SS bracket as you don't know what the loading on the bracket will be when in service and it'll look better than an aluminum homemade job.

 

[Tally Ho]

Yeah, it definitely isn’t stock.

the one on my 2GM2F looks completely different (and the cable angle is also different.

I don’t have a great photo of the bracket, but here is something…

 

[dlochner]

The aluminum bracket significantly changes the angle between the cable and the shift lever on the transmission. This can make shifting much more difficult which can cause excessive wear on the transmission's clutches.

Since you mention this isn't your boat, what problem are you trying fix by adding that bracket?

 

[marcham]

The clamps that hold the cable onto the bracket would be available anywhere that does engine rigging. Each manufacturer makes their own cable clamping system depending on cable routing. This looks very custom. What's your situation, installation and what problem are you trying to solve?

 

[jssailem]

Hello @CSTim Welcome.

Can you point to the part you are searching for in the image.

As @MaryEllaRose responds, the elevated brace for securing the cable looks like a piece of aluminum. It would not show up in any parts list. It is a transmission part not an engine part.

Here is a random site that appeared on an internet search to show an idea.

ZF 45-85 A/IV Shift Cable Bracket

Computer CNC aluminium shift (and optional with TROLL) cable bracket kit for a ZF 45 thru 85 A/IV. Kit includes aluminium bracket, S.S. retaining clip, and required mounting hardware.

www.sbmar.com

 

[Blitz]

The aluminum bracket significantly changes the angle between the cable and the shift lever on the transmission. This can make shifting much more difficult which can cause excessive wear on the transmission's clutches.

I agree totally and was told (East Coast Transmission) and it is in the manual to try to maintain a 90 degree angle between the cable and the shift arm when in neutral.

 

[dlochner]

I agree totally and was told (East Coast Transmission) and it is in the manual to try to maintain a 90 degree angle between the cable and the shift arm when in neutral.

Richie is the best, you got good advice. For some unknown reason the PO of my boat had modified the cable path so that it was inverted and not at a 90° angle to the shift lever, it made shifting extremely difficult. The shifting mechanism uses a cam on the shift lever, once the cam causes the clutch to engage it is free to rotate without consequence. That is why single lever controls work.

Some unsolicited advice, use nylon nuts to mount the cable clamp. Lock washers can vibrate loose in the engine compartment. If the clamp falls off or becomes loose there is no control of the transmission, it is in whatever gear it is until someone climbs down to the transmission and manually shifts gear.

 

[CSTim]

Essential yes, the the unpainted aluminum piece is easy to make, home made, and just a square piece with some holes, the clamp on the cable is the same one that is on the engine now. I'm interested in the painted part attached to the transmission. . It does not look home made to me, it looks like it might a Yanmar part. My conclusion is to just make one from scratch, I haven't been able to figure out where this piece came from. Thanks for your help.

 

[garymalmgren]

Hi CSTim
A nice little project.
You don't need that steel fitting if you make the whole thing up from scratch.

Materials and tools
Morse cable saddle set 212-99241/01 Saddle Clamp Fitting Kit Morse Control Cable
Cardboard (Cornflakes box)
Pencil, scissors.
5mm- 1/4 inch Aluminum sheet
Jig saw with metal blade.
Drill. Drill bits. half round file.

Process
Get in the engine room and make a rough template.
Refine the template so you are satisfied with the dimensions, location of fastener holes and aesthetics.
Transfer template onto aluminum sheet.
Drill holes and test fit.
Determine location of saddle.
Remove.
Cut out shape with jig saw.
Clean all edges.
Fit saddle with locknuts or nyloc nuts for security.
Fit to engine and fit and adjust "Morse" gear control cable.

Notes.
At $8 the saddle might seem expensive, but buying the real thing will mean that the clamping is correct.
You might need to relocate the saddle for final fitting , but with aluminum it would be easy to drill two new holes.
At the gear box end you will need a fitting that swivels so the mechanism can keep a constant angle on the pull.

Google Search

www.google.com

Go for it

Gary

 

[dlochner]

Essential yes, the the unpainted aluminum piece is easy to make, home made, and just a square piece with some holes, the clamp on the cable is the same one that is on the engine now. I'm interested in the painted part attached to the transmission. . It does not look home made to me, it looks like it might a Yanmar part. My conclusion is to just make one from scratch, I haven't been able to figure out where this piece came from. Thanks for your help.

The gray part does look like a Yanmar part. Have you tried calling a large Yanmar dealer in Canada? I'm assuming NOLSC is Niagara on the Lake Sailing Club.

 

[garymalmgren]

Hi Dave.
Have you seen Mads latest Youtube at Sail Life. (10:35 for those with no interest in the rest of the vid)

He was quoted $135 for a genuine Yanmar bracket.
Out of curiosity he got an online quote for one made out of 316 stainless. $20 .
Off course it would be much cheaper if he had chosen plain steel.

My take is, if you can make it yourself, avoid Yanmar!

Gary

 

[dlochner]

Hi Dave.
Have you seen Mads latest Youtube at Sail Life. (10:35 for those with no interest in the rest of the vid)

He was quoted $135 for a genuine Yanmar bracket.
Out of curiosity he got an online quote for one made out of 316 stainless. $20 .
Off course it would be much cheaper if he had chosen plain steel.

My take is, if you can make it yourself, avoid Yanmar!

Gary

If you have the skills to make a good CAD drawing like Mads does, then it would be inexpensive to have one made.

I have a Yanmar and some of the parts stupid expensive. I just bought motor mounts for my 3JH2e for half the price of Yanmar mounts.

 

[marcham]

Indeed! Design in Fusion 360 (free for home users) and have it made ...

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See how a $135 Yanmar bracket can be custom manufactured for $25:

 

[capta]

That is pretty much a standard Morse Cable piece. Find any marine trany repair shop and they should have a bucket full. Pick the one that best fits your project, and it should be very cheap, or take a lady with a nice smile and it would probably be free.

 

[Ward H]

Hi CSTim
A nice little project.
You don't need that steel fitting if you make the whole thing up from scratch.

I needed to make a bracket when I changed my tranny and the shift arm was on the opposite of the orginal tranny.
While I had a diagram for the bracket, it wasn't exact so I did basically what Gary outlined.
I had a piece of 1/4" G10 board laying around, I also used it to make engine mount spacers, and used that instead of buying a piece of aluminum.
I made the cardboard pattern and used it to mark the G10 board. I rough cut it with a 4" circular saw and final shaped it with a belt sander.
Drilled the holes and mounted it. Easy peasy.
(I did all the cutting, sanding and drilling outside in the marina yard while wearing proper PPE)


Question for the group.
Is G10 appropriate for this application? Now I have a good design should I duplicate the G10 bracket in aluminum?

 

[dlochner]

Question for the group.
Is G10 appropriate for this application? Now I have a good design should I duplicate the G10 bracket in aluminum?

There should be very little stress on that part, so I see no issue using G10. If you disconnect the cable, you'll see how easy it is to shift gears.

 

[garymalmgren]

Is G10 appropriate for this application? Now I have a good design should I duplicate the G10 bracket in aluminum?

Looks good to me.
Rustproof and doesn't need painting.
I would add flat washers and keep and eye on the mounting holes for fatigue cracks.
Although I don't really see that as a problem.
Well done and a perfect example for the OP.

Gary