Which type of keel do you prefer?

Jan 19, 2010
12,553
Hobie 16 & Rhodes 22 Skeeter Charleston
There is much to consider:

*Sailing performance
*Cruising ability
*Construction and groundings

.. that is where I land...

Main sail (as usual) did a very throughout analysis. The O.P. needs to consider his sailing ground. Main Sail's analysis was based on where HE sails and how he likes to use his boat. Curious Sailor (the O.P.) sails in Florida .... I don't think granite ledges and freezing ballast are in Curious' future.... and like main sail.... shoal-ish is probably a good compromise for Florida.
 
Jun 6, 2006
6,990
currently boatless wishing Harrington Harbor North, MD
I like to have a hull with a nice entry. The flat bottom ones pound in the waves going to windward. With that said a retractable gives the best of both worlds I live in, shoal draft when needed and deep fin when going to windward. course that measn one more mechanical thing to maintain......nothing comes without a price.
 
Jan 1, 2006
7,471
Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
Good grief....how bout we just use the keels that are attached to the boats we sail and leave it at that?
Well yeah - that's what 99 and 44/100ths of us do. But I like to learn and share information about the interaction of wind on sails and water on hulls. Those things interest me. And, I think this forum and thread attract others with similar interests. That's what I like about it. Otherwise I would be annoying my wife with keel hydrodynamics instead of you.
 
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Jul 14, 2015
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Catalina 30 Stillhouse Hollow Marina
Well yeah - that's what 99 and 44/100ths of us do. But I like to learn and share information about the interaction of wind on sails and water on hulls. Those things interest me. And, I think this forum and thread attract others with similar interests. That's what I like about it. Otherwise I would be annoying my wife with keel hydrodynamics instead of you.
Touche!
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
Well yeah - that's what 99 and 44/100ths of us do. But I like to learn and share information about the interaction of wind on sails and water on hulls. Those things interest me. And, I think this forum and thread attract others with similar interests. That's what I like about it. Otherwise I would be annoying my wife with keel hydrodynamics instead of you.
Indeed. The day I stop learning is the day I die.
 
May 1, 2011
4,871
Pearson 37 Lusby MD
Yes, I do, but sailing on the Chesapeake, you've either run aground or you're going to! I have grounded several times, once so badly that I needed a tow to get out of the mud.
 
Jul 27, 2011
5,134
Bavaria 38E Alamitos Bay
Don't any of you people have a depth gauge so you DON'T run aground???
Unless you have side-scan or fwd-looking sonar, you could easily strike a hard bottom b/f you can respond to a shallow-depth alarm. I take it you don't get out much. A friend of mine in FL once told me [as he was dragging me off of a sand bar]: "If you don't run aground at least once a year, you're not sailing enough!:D"
 
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Jan 19, 2010
12,553
Hobie 16 & Rhodes 22 Skeeter Charleston
Yes, I do, but sailing on the Chesapeake, you've either run aground or you're going to! I have grounded several times, once so badly that I needed a tow to get out of the mud.
The Chesy is tricky.... that and the Pamlico/Albemarle... which is why I'm now a swing keel sailor...
I once chartered a Ranger 29 out of South Creek (near Annapolis)... and I hit a mud bar that the charts said I should have cleared but.... I hit it anyway. I was stuck for about 2 hours as I waited for the tide... I had my family hang from the shrouds to lean her over while I jumped in the water and pushed her back towards deeper water. A local came by in his run about and said... "Someone hangs up on that flat about once a week". I guess it was my turn. Part of the fun I guess.
 
Jan 1, 2006
7,471
Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
.. "Someone hangs up on that flat about once a week".
Well the thread is already off course so ... There are a couple of rocks around here that everyone knows about. They are marked on every chart you can find. And yet, I can name at least five, maybe more, sailors who have hit those rocks. I've witnessed at least three - waving my arms and screaming to no avail. I was telling a friend about a rock, "Waterskiiers Rock" that is in a part of our favorite anchorage where sailboats do not tread. Except for my Tarten 33 friend who had to go there to check it out. He hit it. Bent his rudder post and had to call for a tow in. While he was waiting a local and well known power boat came in to investigate and hit it too. She bend her drive shaft. I cannot help but think of the rock spirit smiling about a productive day.
 

druid

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Apr 22, 2009
837
Ontario 32 Pender Harbour
LOL!
I've heard that you're not considered a "real" sailor until you've run aground on Spanish Banks... (curiously, I never have, although I've run aground elsewhere. Buy me a beer and I'll tell you Stories...)

druid
 

Gunni

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Mar 16, 2010
5,937
Beneteau 411 Oceanis Annapolis
All threads will inevitably come to a state of rest in opinions on anchoring! :tongue:
 

zeehag

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Mar 26, 2009
3,198
1976 formosa 41 yankee clipper santa barbara. ca.(not there)
i am not a fan of bulb keels, but i have sailed many kinds of keel boats. i prefer that which fits the job being done. each has a purpose and each does what was designed to do.
 

druid

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Apr 22, 2009
837
Ontario 32 Pender Harbour
A couple "run-aground" stories since it's a lazy Sunday and my boat is 3 hrs drive away...

Both on the drying rock shelf at the entrance of Silva Bay. Silva Bay is a great place to anchor and watch the action, from the pecking-order on the Royal Van dock to newbies trying to anchor. But one time as I was coming in I saw a powerboat that had run up on the shelf on a falling tide. The whole shelf was now exposed and the boat was high and dry. And they had set up a table and chairs on the rock to watch the passers-by until the tide came back in. One MUST have tea at tea-time, you know... ;)

Another time I watched a seaplane take off over the shelf. I think that was what the powerboater saw to convince him he could go that way too. "WWAAAAAAA-BANG!!!!- puttt-puttt-putt..." I saw him leave the next day - apparently he didn't get his out-drive fixed cuz the prop was pointed 30 degrees up or so, sending out a nice rooster-tail...

druid
 
Jul 7, 2004
8,481
Hunter 30T Cheney, KS
i am not a fan of bulb keels, but i have sailed many kinds of keel boats. i prefer that which fits the job being done. each has a purpose and each does what was designed to do.
I agree. I specifically looked for a bulb keel because of the depth problems at our lake. A fin means having to haul out earlier in order to be able to get to the crane before it's too shallow. A shoal keel doesn't turn as well. A retractable keel is just one more maintenance issue IMHO.