Which Transducer Hole?

Dec 5, 2015
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Oday 272LE Louisville, KY
My old ST30 depth transducer did not work. I have purchased a ST60 depth instrument and ordered a new plastic Airmar transducer. I have an old transducer in place on one side forward of the keel with a plywood backer inside the hull (hull is solid fiberglass). I also have another transducer hole on the other side of the hull with a dummy plug that does not have a plywood backer inside. The old openings do not leak. I will have to re-drill one of the openings for the new larger diameter (2") Airmar transducer. Which hole would you re-drill?
 
Apr 13, 2015
157
Catalina 309 Port Charlotte
Your transducer may be different, but the one I have (and a number of ones I have looked at) basically require you to mount them on the starbord side. They have an arrow that points toward the keel and a side that is supposed to be forward all due to the element inside the xducer angled to compensate for the dead-rise of the hull. so be sure to see if your new xducer is like that to help determine which hole to use.

hope that helps...

Dave in Port Charlotte
 

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SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
22,746
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
I have an old transducer in place on one side forward of the keel with a plywood backer inside the hull (hull is solid fiberglass).
That is the one I’d select. Where do Naval ships and submarines locate their sonar sensors? At the bow.
What part of your boat do you use to enter an anchorage? Where do you need the sensor to tell you there is a big rock ahead? The bow.

If the location in the bow will work and the angle is mostly flat (allowing you to position the transducer in a nearly vertical location) than that would be my select spot.

The transducer sends out a signal that radiates out in the shape like an upside down ice cream cone.

The unit then gets the rebounded signal off the bottom back up that same cone. That is why vertical alignment is best.
 
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Dec 5, 2015
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Oday 272LE Louisville, KY
Your transducer may be different, but the one I have (and a number of ones I have looked at) basically require you to mount them on the starbord side. They have an arrow that points toward the keel and a side that is supposed to be forward all due to the element inside the xducer angled to compensate for the dead-rise of the hull. so be sure to see if your new xducer is like that to help determine which hole to use.

hope that helps...

Dave in Port Charlotte

Thank you! The existing transducer hole is more vertical and on the starboard side. I will put it back in the same location with a bigger hole.
 
Jan 19, 2010
1,271
Catalina 34 Casco Bay
If the holes are of different diameter, there is an easy solution to properly center and saw out a larger hole.
First you need to properly size the existing hole with a hole saw that just fits. From the outside place solid piece of lumber ( say a 2x6x 6) against the hole and block it in place with wooden post or strong volunteer. Use the sized hole saw to drill a pilot hole in the the 2x6. Swap out the hole saws for the new correct size. Use the pilot hole to center the hole saw. Once the hole saw starts cutting into the glass, the outside aids can be removed. A good plan here is to tape over the hole to prevent blow out. Next finish sawing out the hole.
 
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Dec 5, 2015
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Oday 272LE Louisville, KY
Do both of these through hulls point down, or is one of them canted more sideways?

You want the more "vertical" hole in this case.

Thanks, the existing transducer is in the more vertical downward location.
 
Dec 5, 2015
119
Oday 272LE Louisville, KY
If the holes are of different diameter, there is an easy solution to properly center and saw out a larger hole.
First you need to properly size the existing hole with a hole saw that just fits. From the outside place solid piece of lumber ( say a 2x6x 6) against the hole and block it in place with wooden post or strong volunteer. Use the sized hole saw to drill a pilot hole in the the 2x6. Swap out the hole saws for the new correct size. Use the pilot hole to center the hole saw. Once the hole saw starts cutting into the glass, the outside aids can be removed. A good plan here is to tape over the hole to prevent blow out. Next finish sawing out the hole.

Thank you! I will do this.
 
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Jun 3, 2012
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Hunter 33 Steamboat Wharf, Hull, MA
The hole enlargement method provided by sailmate will work. If the hole diameter difference is not especially large, say 1/4", you can easily enlarge with a drill and a sanding drum bit. Select a drum as large as will fit into the old hole and with the drill running, rotate the spinning drum slowly around the circumference of the hole.
 
Jan 11, 2014
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Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
There are a number of options for enlarging an existing hole. A recent thread covered most of them.


The most important factor for a depth sounder location is clear water. If the transducer is located in turbulent water its accuracy will be affected. The second most important factor is angle, the closer to vertical the better. However once the boat starts to heel, the soundings will be less accurate because they will be shooting the bottom at an angle. That's why small deviations in the vertical angle are less important. The depth sounder can also be calibrated to compensate for any variation due to a small angle.
 
Jan 7, 2011
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Oday 322 East Chicago, IN
There are a number of options for enlarging an existing hole. A recent thread covered most of them.


The most important factor for a depth sounder location is clear water. If the transducer is located in turbulent water its accuracy will be affected. The second most important factor is angle, the closer to vertical the better. However once the boat starts to heel, the soundings will be less accurate because they will be shooting the bottom at an angle. That's why small deviations in the vertical angle are less important. The depth sounder can also be calibrated to compensate for any variation due to a small angle.
I used the wooden plug suggestion for enlarging the holes, and it worked great. No need to glue anything down (it was 28 F) and i could do it without any help.

Great tip.

Greg
 
Jan 19, 2010
1,271
Catalina 34 Casco Bay
...and just remember...

you can't hurt a hole....but you can raise hell with the edges.....
 
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SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
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CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
As a hint, I always start a hole on fiberglass, with the drill running in reverse. This helps too mitigate chipping the gelcoat.
And of course tape the area where you will be cutting the hole. Cut through the tape. This also helps.
 
Oct 29, 2005
2,362
Hunter Marine 326 303 Singapore
If all else being equal, I would chose the hole with backing wood to enlarge. Taking the opportunity to replace the backing wood(if it's still required). Thru-hull wood has a finite live. They do get soft/rot over time.

Ken Y