Rich, do you have a link to reports of these U.S. Boater murders? I would think they'd be all over the news.
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Uh, you don't hit them with the fire extinguisher, you spray it in their face. While they are trying to get their breath back and clear their eyes, you can lock yourself in the cabin, get a knife or a fish gaff/club or whatever, hell a hammer might help. But I'm pretty sure a face full of fire extinguisher will incapacitate someone for a few minutes, in the confines of a cockpit, but obviously NOT in a street situation a cop might run into, duh.
If you use a prohibited weapon, you not your attacker, are going to be the one spending a great deal of time in a 3rd world country prison, which I'm sure you would not enjoy.
Some of us are actually out here, not sailing the Chesapeake, where we do have to deal with these possibilities and useful suggestions are helpful; snide remarks are not.
The exact count of the ammo is critical. single bullets go for 5 bucks in nassau.
a friend of a friend spent a week in jail and thousands of dollars for declaring the rifles but not the ammo. -Bahamas customs didn't ask about ammo, just what he was declaring. Then after the declaration was signed and completed, started asking about ammo... (*cough*shakedown*cough*)
a friend of a friend spent a week in jail and thousands of dollars for declaring the rifles but not the ammo. -Bahamas customs didn't ask about ammo, just what he was declaring. Then after the declaration was signed and completed, started asking about ammo... (*cough*shakedown*cough*)
I was in the BVI, sitting on the boat. I called lady friend in Hartford, CT. "Cane Garden Bay?" says she. Someone was just murdered there! Wasn't me" says I. She only knew about it because the person/family was from Hartford. Local bartender says they don't "spread the news" as it stiffles tourism. "Money talks" is one saying, the other- I guess opposite- is "Talk doesn't make money"?
I don't know how asking a simple question could turn in a big political , anti -gun debate. I asked a easy to answer question and for some reason the tree huggers thoought it would be good to voice their opinion. I carry a weapon, I will protect my family and myself without trying to go against someone with a knife or gun with an explosive can of bug spray trying to shoot a flame out of it. I have lived in the Florida Keys and Pigeon Forge Tennessee, both huge tourist areas. While I lived there I was in Law Enforcement. If you think on of their local newspapers report the crime going on in their tourist oriented area you are dead wrong. My whole family carries legally with permits not visible. My intention was just some general weapon information, I am not planning on walking the streets of Nassau with my AR15 slung over my shoulder. I am a semi collector and target shooter, but not foolish enough to think if someone boards you vessel at night not announcing they are law enforcement you have a dangerous problem. I would never try to shoot a flare at a suspect on board my boat, I carried pepper spray and have used pepper spray which works on some people but have had people that showed little or no effect. Please don't feel that I am putting anyone down that answered and appreciate your feedback, but if you go against a life threatening with other than equal or greater force leave notice where your bodies are to be buried. Thanks again for all the imput and I have no intention of going anywhere near any tourist island. Been to Nassau and Freeport, would never go back. When and if I go the the Bahamas it will be where there are no tourists, just need a marina. Please take time if you are traveling to most Islands in the Bahamas or Virgin Islands and there are warnings not to be outside of a resort at night. May God (oops sorry didn't want to offend anyone) keep you safe in your travels
Thanks,
Frank
Thanks,
Frank
This thread reminds me that I need to clean out my backpack, front pocket has about 24 spend 30-06 cases in it from a range day a few years back. Something that I think of a with no more concern than it being loose change others may see as a big deal offshore.
I have no problems leaving my firearms home when I plan on visiting another country. What does chap me is the fact I can get in trouble traveling to NY an NJ for what I see as doing nothing wrong. But that is an entirely new can o worms.
I have no problems leaving my firearms home when I plan on visiting another country. What does chap me is the fact I can get in trouble traveling to NY an NJ for what I see as doing nothing wrong. But that is an entirely new can o worms.
Some friends of mine were able to fend off the drunken fisherman who boarded their boat with, of all things, a loaf of bread.
Uh, no kidding. You missed the humor. But thanks for the snide comment.
Yet, in ironic reality a heavy fire extinguisher could be a usable weapon, both in defense and offense, after you have emptied it in a futile attempt to stop a raging bull.
Also, an area similar to the confines of a cockpit can be precisely what police are faced with in a deadly showdown, and a scenario they train for.
I respect your nautical knowledge and don't wish to offend, but so many voice opinions that are not good advice. And it should be countered, especially re a subject such as this. I would not begin to advise others on the safety of offshore racing in the Southern Ocean, for I know nothing about it. But I can offer some real world experience and self defense knowledge. Respectfully, a fire extinguisher would be way down on my list of appropriate self defense weapons in a fight for my life.
I think this thread has run it's course. Guns on board has been discussed ad infinitum in this forum and many of the other sailing forums. There is no right or wrong answer and typically degenerate to arguments with no resolution in site.
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