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Oct 10, 2011
619
Tartan 34C Toms River, New Jersey
No, it was coal. Coal powered factories, coal powered heating, coal powered trains, coal powered steam ships.
This is the last quote to this tread because I believe it's getting redundant. But I believe the use of coal was started a lot earlier than 1870. Of course I may be wrong. The first use of coal was 1578 on the Illinois River.
 
Nov 30, 2015
1,343
Hunter 1978 H30 Cherubini, Treman Marina, Ithaca, NY
Updated forecast for this area looks promising for a maintenance day this weekend. I see battery charging and power washing a possibility. Light at the end of the tunnel?
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Nov 30, 2015
1,343
Hunter 1978 H30 Cherubini, Treman Marina, Ithaca, NY
I think I'll move to Ithaca. Your forecast is more promising than 60 miles north.
Yikes, that's a lot of water Dave...although it may help fill up Cayuga a bit faster. I need 382.5' to even attempt a passage up the south channel.

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Oct 26, 2008
6,432
Catalina 320 Barnegat, NJ
Gophers! It's funny that the water makes it look deceptively light wind! :confused: The ice keeps it flat. The way the boats are moving, there must be a fair breeze. I wonder if ice and snow increases or lessens the surface friction on wind! Good thing it's a reach both ways. It might be a bit narrow for tacking!
 
Oct 24, 2010
2,405
Hunter 30 Everett, WA
We're at 48 degrees North, but our temps remain lows in the 40s and highs in the 50s. We don't shovel rain. We have had a few dry days in the 60s so far this spring.

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Jul 1, 2010
990
Catalina 350 Port Huron
Updated forecast for this area looks promising for a maintenance day this weekend. I see battery charging and power washing a possibility. Light at the end of the tunnel?
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That's not quite the forecast I'm seeing now. You never should have put it online.

At least it won't be snowing, but that could all change by tomorrow. Hope to start working on my boat this weekend too.
 
Jul 1, 2010
990
Catalina 350 Port Huron
I think I'll move to Ithaca. Your forecast is more promising than 60 miles north.
Yea, but once sailing season starts, you'll be glad you're up there on the big lake. We love sailing up there. A whole different ball game.
 
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Oct 25, 2011
576
Island Packet IP31 Lake St. Louis, Montreal
Aaaaargh! Montreal's weekend forecast as per the Weather network: :(:soapbox::banghead::puke:
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Jan 11, 2014
13,994
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
Remember last October? Taking boats out of the water while wearing shorts and T-shirt? 65 to 70 and sunny? Who knew we would need sunscreen in October.

We're paying for it now..... :cuss::cuss::(
 

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Oct 22, 2014
24,519
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
I remember October... 25th thru the 30th.. The Indian Summer Cruise of 2017.. I tried to get folks interested. Ended up me and @Stu Jackson visiting the Gulf Island. We enjoyed warm days and chilly nights. Some just ended their sailing season too early.
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Jan 1, 2006
7,980
Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
It's hard to compare PNW with the New England but we had very mild weather last fall. If I remember well into November and even early December. Than wham! It got cold fast. By the end of the month we were seeing well below freezing temp and single digits regularly. It was cold enough long enough to get some ice in the bays. The only reason there wasn't more ice was because the water started more warm due to the mild fall. I'm not complaining about that since I think the bays need a spat of cold weather to be healthy. But now it's April, the sun is strong and it's time for warmer weather. BTW the water clarity here is very good due to the, I think, cold spell and the lack of gully washing rains. We've had rain but not so much the type that overwhelms the drainage systems and washes into the bays. I hope I can swim in that water soon!
What was the topic again?
 

TomY

Alden Forum Moderator
Jun 22, 2004
2,769
Alden 38' Challenger yawl Rockport Harbor
It's hard to compare PNW with the New England but we had very mild weather last fall. If I remember well into November and even early December. Than wham! It got cold fast. By the end of the month we were seeing well below freezing temp and single digits regularly. It was cold enough long enough to get some ice in the bays. The only reason there wasn't more ice was because the water started more warm due to the mild fall. I'm not complaining about that since I think the bays need a spat of cold weather to be healthy. But now it's April, the sun is strong and it's time for warmer weather. BTW the water clarity here is very good due to the, I think, cold spell and the lack of gully washing rains. We've had rain but not so much the type that overwhelms the drainage systems and washes into the bays. I hope I can swim in that water soon!
What was the topic again?
We had a similar season in 2017 (I agree, I don't see us sharing similar weather). The sailing season was cooler than normal. While I didn't haul out until the second week of November, our typical prolonged coastal fall, was cut short by the early and cold winter.

Now, the winter is lingering here on our coast. But I never expect it to warm much around here in spring. The North Atlantic calls the shots on our weather during spring. I don't look at the thermometer much this time of year; I look at a nearby flag to see the wind direction, to decide what to wear. The ocean is cold.

Our sailing seasons are a little unpredictable these days. The Gulf of Maine is warming faster than nearly any ocean body on the planet, especially in the last 10 or so years. Beyond climate change in general, the rapid warming of the Gulf is due to the flow patterns of the Gulf Stream and the North Atlantic. Current paths are shifting.

We've seen the results first hand, sailing Penobscot Bay. Last season, we didn't swim in the bay. 2 and 3 seasons past, we did swim, quite a bit. I took to hanging a thermometer in the water at various anchorages and would occasionally find water creeping up to 70 degrees (normally it's low to mid 60's in Aug). That rare 70F is warm for coastal Maine. During many of our beautiful warm August days (that can be very hot in the bright sun), we enjoyed swimming off the boat in the last few seasons. That's something we very rarely did for in the last couple decades of sailing the coast of Maine(and we were younger!).

We could just as well see our 2018 season be colder than normal (we tend to go through 2-3 year dips and rises in the water temperature), but there's a better likelihood, this season will be quite warm.

I see this as a bright side to climate change. I'll live and sail this warming trend in the Gulf of Maine as we continue to track longer and warmer seasons.

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May 25, 2012
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john alden caravelle 42 sturgeon bay, wis
full on blizzard forecast for ne wisconson this weekend. 18" plus of snow with gale or better winds. bay still has thick ice on it which can mean big ice pushes on the vulnerable locations. prolly not be launching the old alden soon.
 
May 25, 2012
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john alden caravelle 42 sturgeon bay, wis
it's pre-frontal here in ohio. big changes coming. right now 76 and blowing a gale

fun fact: pre-frontal is a good time to fish
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
A spring storm is going to dump over a foot of snow in Minneapolis this weekend. Happily, I got a call from my buddy with the Fareast 28r in San Antonio. Would Jodi and I like a weekend in the warmth and breeze?? Thank you, yes sir! Flights, lodging and meals comp'ed, and the sailing looks kick-ass. Screw winter!!

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Jan 1, 2006
7,980
Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
When the going gets tough - flee. Run like hell. I'm down with that! "Run Forest run." We've all had more Winter than is reasonable. Circumstances here prevent my egress but if it weren't for that, I'd be out of here. Tiki bar? Toes in warm water? "Good God almighty which way do I steer?"
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
When the going gets tough - flee. Run like hell. I'm down with that! "Run Forest run." We've all had more Winter than is reasonable. Circumstances here prevent my egress but if it weren't for that, I'd be out of here. Tiki bar? Toes in warm water? "Good God almighty which way do I steer?"
Exactly. Normally we are launching this week. But the lake has 20 inches of ice coving it, and a blizzard is coming. So Jodi and I are off to Texas for the 4th time this winter.... so Spring now. With that breeze we do 15 knots down wind. Send it!
 
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DougM

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Jul 24, 2005
2,242
Beneteau 323 Manistee, MI
I am anxious to get back to my boat in Michigan! but postponed my departure until mid May. I got there last year about this time and couldn’t work on it.

I’m sitting here in Virginia in predicted 80 degree weather today, and last I looked, a major ice storm is predicted for northern Michigan.