Outboard water impeller, how often to change?

Nov 23, 2011
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MacGregor 26D London Ontario Canada
Hey, Finding41… there are battery operated tachometers that can provide hour meters.

I have this one: http://www.amazon.com/Tachometer-Kawasaki-Motorcycle-Generator-Snowmobile/dp/B0049IFX56

It has just 1 wire, which wraps around the spark plug wire, and using induction, counts spark plug firing pulses.

I have used it a few times, just to check RPM at idle load and WOT, with stock prop and high thrust prop. I don't use it for hour meter. I'm not sure where one would put it for that purpose, what with rain and such.
Thanks BrianS.
That link got me thinking and off I went to Ebay.
This is the same thing I ordered. http://www.ebay.com/itm/28151837401...49&var=580545545975&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
I ordered 4. I'll be able to stuff them into the cowling so they are out of the way.
I didn't get the ones that do more than just hours as I am going to sell these motors at the end of the season and get new ones. The meters will go with the motors.
In the mean time I'm going to keep an eye out for a meter that does allot more. Things like Hours, RPM, Temp, etc. Maybe something I can plug an SD card ito so I can capture the data that way.
Any suggestions are welcome.
 

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Jun 8, 2004
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One thing not mentioned is the fact that in most cases, a gasket will need to be replaced so when you order an impellor, order a gasket for every impellor you purchase.

It is really not rocket science gents trying to figure when an impellor is going. After you change one, look how much water is coming out. If that flow ever changes to a lessor flow, then you need to change the impellor and as one fellow pointed out, an area with high sediment will require changing the impellor out more. One thing I never see are many pleasure sailors taking notice of that water flow when starting their engine. I always taught my customers to notice that on a regular basis.
 
May 23, 2004
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I'm in the market as were . Colonial Beach
Dave, you are so right about checking regularly. That isn't just for an outboard but for inboard as well. I was motoring along in my Catalina 30 one time and I noticed an odd sound. I immediately looked behind me and water wasn't coming out like it should. I immediately throttled down the engine and then turned it off. It never had a chance to build up high temperature. Long story short, I had picked up something while I was motoring and I cleaned out a mess of crap from the strainer and I was good to go. If I hadn't been listening or paying attention I could have damaged my engine.

Last year on the last day of my trip I started my outboard. Water was spitting out fine and all looked good. As I was motoring along I checked it again and noticed that water wasn't coming out. After pushing some wire down the pee hole it started spitting water again (my Tohatsu spits a lot of water). I watched that thing like a hawk the whole way home.

I will replace my impellor and gasket this year (buy the kit). Cheap insurance for someone who will motor from time to time on longer cruises (I do miss the diesel in my old boat when I have a long day of motoring).

Good point about keeping the old one if it is in good shape. I use to do that with my diesel as well. Having spares and back-ups is just good common sense when cruising. I carry spare spark plugs and other items as well.
 

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May 2, 2005
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Hunter 26 Oceanside, CA
I have a 91' Honda 8hp., and need to change the impeller. A local shop will charge $150 to do it. I've paid to have it done a few times, but always had to drop off the motor, and pick it up later, so I've never witnessed the process. I want to do the work myself, and have been looking for a youtube video of someone showing how it's done. Does anyone have a link to such a video? I really would rather do the work myself, but of course the mechanic cautions me and says, it's not that easy.
 
Feb 20, 2011
8,048
Island Packet 35 Tucson, AZ/San Carlos, MX
I have a 91' Honda 8hp., and need to change the impeller. A local shop will charge $150 to do it. I've paid to have it done a few times, but always had to drop off the motor, and pick it up later, so I've never witnessed the process. I want to do the work myself, and have been looking for a youtube video of someone showing how it's done. Does anyone have a link to such a video? I really would rather do the work myself, but of course the mechanic cautions me and says, it's not that easy.
Never mind that mechanic.
Open Google, and type in "youtube change impeller outboard motor", and see what you come up with.
 
Nov 23, 2011
2,023
MacGregor 26D London Ontario Canada
Never mind that mechanic.
Open Google, and type in "youtube change impeller outboard motor", and see what you come up with.
I use YouTube for everything I want to figure out how to do.

It's great for anything! Really. It taught me to sew... Even use it for obscure things like how to change the blower fan in my Saab 9-5. That let me buy my 2nd Saab an 04 9-5 when it was 8 years old for $500. It needed a blower fan. The workshop Info System says 10 12 hours by removing the dash board...The PO didn't want to spend $1000for a fan. I did it in 20 min from under the hood. Thanks YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUA5kzB87Qs
(I can't find a good picture of my 04... It's the same as the grey 03 one in the picture except it's redish purple.
 

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May 2, 2005
1,192
Hunter 26 Oceanside, CA
Never mind that mechanic.
Open Google, and type in "youtube change impeller outboard motor", and see what you come up with.
I forgot to say I tried hard to find info for the Honda. I see other motors, some larger Honda's, Yamaha's, etc., but not the motor I have. I'm pretty sure a motor of close to the same hp and vintage would work, but I can't find anything.

I use youtube to get how to videos regularly, but for this it seems to be a problem.
 
Nov 9, 2012
2,500
Oday 192 Lake Nockamixon
Did I ever tell the story of how we melted an outboard? This was on a powerboat, not sailboats, but still.

We used to have a 70hp Mercury in-line 4 cylinder 2 stroke outboard. My uncle was supposed to maintain it. One time we were out, and the motor was running really poorly. My friend pulled the plugs to see what was up, because it sounded like it was only running on 3 cylinders. He found metal bits on the end of the top cylinder plug.

Turns out, in these in-line Mercs, if the water pump isn't at full strength, the cooling water doesn't make it all the way up the block to the top cylinder. It overheats, and the bits of metal were really aluminum sputters from the melting piston head. Apparently, my uncle was not having the water pump overhauled each season he had the winterizing and tune up done...

We learned this from my friend who had a 120hp in-line 6 cylinder Merc 2 stroke. His mechanic advised him to change the impeller every year, because the 6 cylinder motors are especially prone to this meltdown. After he towed our boat 4 miles, we also learned that the in-line 6s are prone to bent crankshafts, and thus complete engine rebuilds... I felt really bad, we used to ski the heck out of that 120hp... Damn powerhead used to stick up from his 16' boat like a shark fin. Sure, it wasn't rated for 120... but we stuck a 1/2" aluminum plate on the transom, and it was solid after that :D:D:D
 
Nov 23, 2011
2,023
MacGregor 26D London Ontario Canada
I have a 91' Honda 8hp., and need to change the impeller. A local shop will charge $150 to do it. I've paid to have it done a few times, but always had to drop off the motor, and pick it up later, so I've never witnessed the process. I want to do the work myself, and have been looking for a youtube video of someone showing how it's done. Does anyone have a link to such a video? I really would rather do the work myself, but of course the mechanic cautions me and says, it's not that easy.
Here is a video tutorial for the next model of Honda 9.9-15 hp. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8mdRQGEkO8
I think this is a link to purchase your manual. https://www.tradebit.com/filedetail.php/276637461-1984-2004-honda-marine-outboard-motor-all-models
I would check the manuals on this site first. Also the fishing, boating forums for free ones.
Good luck.
 
Aug 31, 2013
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Hunter 26 Saylorville-Des Moines
I highly recommend a Seloc manual for outboard repair. They have one for Honda of various vintages. Looks like yours would be $36.95. I found mine (Nissan/Tohatsu) to be a great read - and worth the price on the first job or confidence to talk to your shop when you have them work on it.
www.selocmarine.com
 
Aug 15, 2012
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Precision 21 Newburyport MA
His is a '91 you posted one for a '01. The 8hp for that time frame from what I can tell has a unique gasket for the waterpump. I would recommend getting the Service Manual for the Outboard, preferably the Honda one vs the Selco. You can usually find gently used ones on ebay at a reasonable price if you keep looking.