then just re-ping the boat end. Every thing else the device retains and recalculates the line and bias based on the re-ping.Sounds great until the RC decides to ease out 20’ of chain after you’ve punched the ends and lined up the angle.
then just re-ping the boat end. Every thing else the device retains and recalculates the line and bias based on the re-ping.Sounds great until the RC decides to ease out 20’ of chain after you’ve punched the ends and lined up the angle.
I feel you.@Jackdaw, or other knowledgeable contributors: Apologies for hijacking your thread, but I'm curious if there are other mast- or bulkhead-mounted options available at a lower price point that would display just course and speed. The current glut of racing devices is really cool. But when cruising, I don't need start-line early / late timing or the other racing-specific features of MAX, D10, Velocitek, etc.
Come to think of it, when cruising with family, I could just use my labelmaker to print "LATE" and stick it permanently on the bezel.
I thought of a retired iPhone in a waterproof case running iRegatta. But my son inherited the old iPhone 5s before I had a chance to try that, so that one will have to wait until the next round of phone upgrades.
Thanks! Very helpful!I feel you.
Most of the combi speed/course devices start around $500. Compass-only devices (solar, backlit) around 300. In a pinch I once taped an old waterproof Galaxy 5 to my mast bracket and ran a ProStart emulator app for a regatta. But that's not a real solution. The real ones are designed and built to resist water, sun, heat, cold, and solid knock. You are going to pay a bit more for that.
Here is more detail. Have a look at the 2019 powerpoint.
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I have a $3.00 app for my IPhone MotionX-GPS for iPhone Overview | MotionX@Jackdaw, or other knowledgeable contributors: Apologies for hijacking your thread, but I'm curious if there are other mast- or bulkhead-mounted options available at a lower price point that would display just course and speed. The current glut of racing devices is really cool. But when cruising, I don't need start-line early / late timing or the other racing-specific features of MAX, D10, Velocitek, etc.
Come to think of it, when cruising with family, I could just use my labelmaker to print "LATE" and stick it permanently on the bezel.
I thought of a retired iPhone in a waterproof case running iRegatta. But my son inherited the old iPhone 5s before I had a chance to try that, so that one will have to wait until the next round of phone upgrades.
But first you have to notice that they eased out the chain. And if you don’t, you end up OCS if you depend upon your screen. And will the other classes give you room to get in there to re-ping if it’s not your start? (Not likely around here!)then just re-ping the boat end. Every thing else the device retains and recalculates the line and bias based on the re-ping.
Well it can't solve ALL your problems! ;^) But you're right, it can get busy with multiple starts. Our RC will only very rarely square the starting line after the first start. If they do, they will drop the on-station flag and announce their intention over VHF. Hard to miss.But first you have to notice that they eased out the chain. And if you don’t, you end up OCS if you depend upon your screen. And will the other classes give you room to get in there to re-ping if it’s not your start? (Not likely around here!)
yes it does seem small but the digits are probably the same size as most mast mounted instruments. They’ve just been able to reduce the overall device volume.Interesting photos that sort of show the size of the device relative to the persons hand. I realize the dimensions are in the link you posted but I was thinking it was bigger for some reason. Very “readable” screen as the photos were taken outside.
Any idea of what the mounting hardware will be?
solid point. And the Image of the mockup offers no help either. I’m betting the final product will have grooves on the side for the mount to grab on to. Its the way ALL of the competitive products do.Looking at the photo of the back of the device it doesn’t show any “connection” points for mounting and the side buttons would need to be accessible to use it so hard to guess how the mount will work. Great package design so they likely have a solid solution, just have to wait and see I guess.
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Excellent review Clay, it is great to see it in action to understand the process.OK it's here. Pretty decent device. I'll stay with my RaceGeek on BlueJ, but for a sportboat, this is a contender.
Dave,Thanks for the review. Can the screen or the app be configured to show the amount you’re early/late by, rather than the binary indicator? From the video it looked like it was a pretty quick transition from early to late. If it said I was late I feel like I’d want to know whether I’m late by 1 second or 20.
What happens at the start when your eyes are busy looking at a screen instead of at the boats around you and what they’re doing? Our competitors don’t allow us the luxury of simply cruising across the starting line “on time” wherever we want to cross it. We could be “on time” with 10 seconds to go and have someone to leeward push us up into the committee boat if we weren’t paying attention. If you don’t want to be early, you have to look around to see what maneuvers are possible to slow yourself down, based on who’s around you, where they are, and what they’re doing. If you’re going to be late it doesn’t matter so long as you’re ahead of the competition. This piece of gear can provide useful information, but simply looking around will tell you whether you’re 1 or 20 seconds late just as well.Thanks for the review. Can the screen or the app be configured to show the amount you’re early/late by, rather than the binary indicator? From the video it looked like it was a pretty quick transition from early to late. If it said I was late I feel like I’d want to know whether I’m late by 1 second or 20.
Wait, you mean sailing isn’t just like playing a video game?What happens at the start when your eyes are busy looking at a screen instead of at the boats around you and what they’re doing? Our competitors don’t allow us the luxury of simply cruising across the starting line “on time” wherever we want to cross it. We could be “on time” with 10 seconds to go and have someone to leeward push us up into the committee boat if we weren’t paying attention. If you don’t want to be early, you have to look around to see what maneuvers are possible to slow yourself down, based on who’s around you, where they are, and what they’re doing. If you’re going to be late it doesn’t matter so long as you’re ahead of the competition. This piece of gear can provide useful information, but simply looking around will tell you whether you’re 1 or 20 seconds late just as well.
that’s the reality for everyone, your fleet isn’t a special situation. In the same vein, these devices are designed by Olympic caliber sailors who get that, and yet bet their livelihoods on this being able to help.What happens at the start when your eyes are busy looking at a screen instead of at the boats around you and what they’re doing? Our competitors don’t allow us the luxury of simply cruising across the starting line “on time” wherever we want to cross it. We could be “on time” with 10 seconds to go and have someone to leeward push us up into the committee boat if we weren’t paying attention. If you don’t want to be early, you have to look around to see what maneuvers are possible to slow yourself down, based on who’s around you, where they are, and what they’re doing. If you’re going to be late it doesn’t matter so long as you’re ahead of the competition. This piece of gear can provide useful information, but simply looking around will tell you whether you’re 1 or 20 seconds late just as well.