New Battery power flare replacement
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No, an incomplete definition. Colregs considers the SOS lights a subcatagory of flashing light, and that is the only definition that matters in this context.
COLREGS. [unless I missed it, there is no acceptable use for a stobe in COLREGS--show the citation]
RULE 36
Signals to Attract Attention
If necessary to attract the attention of another vessel, any vessel may make
light or sound signals that cannot be mistaken for any signal authorized
elsewhere in these Rules, or may direct the beam of her searchlight in the
direction of the danger, in such a way as not to embarrass any vessel. Any
light to attract the attention of another vessel shall be such that it cannot be
mistaken for any aid to navigation. For the purpose of this Rule the use of
high intensity intermittent or revolving lights, such as strobe lights, shall be
avoided
Websters:
1. strobescope.
2. a device that utilizes a flash tube for high-speed illumination (as in photography)
Although some believe a stobe is acceptable as a distress signal, COLREGS specifies a flashing light and defines it.
It means that at night time and on angle the STROBE would signal the stars and the sea level.
Not very good if expecting the USCG to rescue you.
That is why it FLOATS or ≈ horizontal to Strobe SOS near you.
Waving by hand might help if a rescue was nearby.
Not to extend an argument here, but who said that hanging it would render it not level?It means that at night time and on angle the STROBE would signal the stars and the sea level.
Not very good if expecting the USCG to rescue you.
That is why it FLOATS or ≈ horizontal to Strobe SOS near you.
Waving by hand might help if a rescue was nearby.
You guys crack me up.
Get some humor and you must have the last remark.
Enough said by me...
By the way..
this device has been discussed before about heavy seas and SOS signal not really seeing SOS.
Do you searches
Plus we want a picture of when you hang it horizontal and Strobing....
Bye...
Jim...
Get some humor and you must have the last remark.
Enough said by me...
By the way..
this device has been discussed before about heavy seas and SOS signal not really seeing SOS.
Do you searches
Plus we want a picture of when you hang it horizontal and Strobing....
Bye...
Jim...
I still don't get it, @JamesG161 . If that was an attempt at humor, I recommend you don't quit your day job.
I'll save you looking this up in ColReg's (Rule 1 - footnote 1): Submarines may display, as a distinctive means of identification, an intermittent flashing amber (yellow) beacon with a sequence of one flash per second for three (3) seconds followed by a three (3) second off-period. Other special rules made by the Secretary of the Navy with respect to additional station and signal lights are found in Part 706 of Title 32, Code of Federal Regulations (32 CFR 706)
I would love to get rid of the pyrotechnic flares. Except the flare pistol, I've seen in many movies where this is an effective weapon, and the James Bond in me says to keep it. One would have plausible deniability if you used it against a person because, hey, it's a boat, and it's a flare gun. Mine even came with a 12 gauge adapter, 'though I'm not sure it's strong enough for OO-buck.
Of course, you could hit the guy over the head with the battery powered thing, and then threaten to blow the whistle - stop or I'll toot!
Of course, you could hit the guy over the head with the battery powered thing, and then threaten to blow the whistle - stop or I'll toot!
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Very good points. They are obviously designed to fit into your cupholders, since they don't hang straight. In that case you shouldn't even need to leave the cockpit to set it up! Remember to wear your shades though if you plan to be in the cockpit with it on. It's supposed to be pretty bright.Note that these flares transmit a horizontal beam of light, like and anchor light, and thus must be rigged dead level. The light hangs at about a 30 degree tilt with the supplied rigging. Also, bungees are all wrong, since it will snap back and forth if there is any sway. They also light for more than 8 hours; that's a long time to hand-hold! 5 minutes is a long tome to hold something steady overhead. I have not seen a single image on-line showing it rigged correctly.
All wrong. Only visible in two narrow sectors. Bad marketing materials. And there is nothing about this in the instructions.
The Orion version comes with a hanging bridle. You can rig a hanging bridle on C-1003 if you slide the float down to access two eyes. The C1002 has no means of rigging a bridle. Go figure.
Think about it. If some one handed this to you in an emergency you would ask two questions:
- How do I turn it on (they all have obvious switches or are twisted)?
- Where do I hang it? But they are not rigged for hanging
See post 15. Kinna obvious.
Only Orion comes rigged for level hanging, and hanging the Serius C-1002 level will require fabricating something, since there are ZERO eyes or fittings for this. I asked the Serius factory reps about this and he explain that...
... "Sailboaters make up a tiny part of our market, so we didn't concern ourselves with that. I guess you'll have to come up with a mounting."
Honest. That is what he said. His boss (corporate officer) repeated the same reasoning. So I guess they aren't intended for sailboats. We don't matter.
Oh yeah! With night-adapted vision, they are just plain painful! Which is a good thing, actually. But you do want to rig them above head level. (I tested them at night, taking pictures from a distance against background lights, to test conspicuousness.)
Also, unless the rod holder is on the cabin top, where is can snag everything, at least 40% of the beam will never leave the cockpit.
I went with the Ocean Signal EDF1 after nearly getting blinded by testing it at the boat show. It has a 7 year battery (you know you guys forget to replace the batteries right?). It will blind you and get you attention during the day as opposed to the one you guys are talking about.
Only if you assume that goofy arrangement was what I was referring to. I was thinking that such a device should incorporate a means of hanging it. I'm going to be busy if I am in distress, I'm not going to be doing a Statue of Liberty impersonation in the cockpit.