Need line diameter for Schaeffer drum furler -222

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Igetit

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May 26, 2011
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Hunter 270 Lake Monroe, Indiana
I have an 84 O'day 222 that came with the original jib and Schaeffer drum furler in a sail bag. The primary headsail is a larger hank-on type, but I would like to use the smaller jib occasionally when winds are heavier.

Does anyone know the right diameter line to use for this furler? I hear they shipped with the 19'-22' ft boats of that era.
 

caguy

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Sep 22, 2006
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Catalina, Luger C-27, Adventure 30 Marina del Rey
I have an 84 O'day 222 that came with the original jib and Schaeffer drum furler in a sail bag. The primary headsail is a larger hank-on type, but I would like to use the smaller jib occasionally when winds are heavier.

Does anyone know the right diameter line to use for this furler? I hear they shipped with the 19'-22' ft boats of that era.
I don't know the line diameter, but I'm glad you brought it up. I recall that some use a larger diameter line and remove the core from half of it so that it fits on the drum. This makes the line more comfortable to handle. I assume they remove core on the first part of the rope that wraps on the drum, the length that runs back to the cockpit.
Thanks for the reminder I need to do this myself.
 

Igetit

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May 26, 2011
85
Hunter 270 Lake Monroe, Indiana
Found some line this weekend at a big box store that works great, pretty sure it was 3/16ths dia.

A roller furler sure beats the heck out of hank ons, imo. It's the original sail, but I'm considering buying a jib sock for it, I have a slip at a marina and would like to leave it rigged up.

Now I just need a good solution to manage the excess line when the job is furled. Cleat, reel, ?
 
Jun 2, 2004
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Oday Day Sailer Wareham, MA
Use a cleat (should already be there, mounted to starboard side of cabin) along with a fairlead to guide the line to the cleat. (I've included a pic below). That said, it you are serious about using a furling jib, find a sucker to take that Schaefer unit off your hands and get a furler that is truly big enough for a 22' boat. HARKEN and Schaefer still make wire-luff furlers and a larger one is a good idea (ex. Schaefer System 550). The particular Schaefer furler (model #100) that came with the 222 and the 192 was never designed to be used on a boat as big as the 222 (or the 192 for that matter). it is designed more for a smaller boat like the Day Sailer (and was standard on the DS III). I heard that direct from Schaefer, they were not happy about O'DAY using that model on larger boats and it really is not strong enough for heavier winds.
If you were interested in switching exclusively to a roller-furling jib, I'd suggest either the Schaefer "Snap-Furl" or the Cruising Design Flexible-Furler, both fit over the forestay and will do a much better job of shaping the jib. In a pinch you can semi-reef the jib using one of these over-the-forestay furlers, although not perfectly without a foam pad i nthe luff of hte jib and even then it won't be as good as a smaller "storm jib", but for anything except real close-hauled beating..... it will certainly work!
 

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Igetit

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May 26, 2011
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Hunter 270 Lake Monroe, Indiana
Sorry, I wasn't clear: I'm using the fairleads and starboard cleat, but there is still about ten feet of small diameter line in the cockpit when the jib is furled, and I find this kind of untidy. Its too much to wind around a cleat, and too small in diameter to coil neatly like my halyards. It could almost be wound around a reel or stick (like a kite) to keep it in one place.
I agree with your assessment of the furler, but I'm pretty sure my sails are original, so I'm contemplating replacing the whole shebang next year, including a "real" furler in the process.
 
Jun 2, 2004
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Oday Day Sailer Wareham, MA
On our old CAL 21 we coiled the 3/16" dia. furling line (from the CDI Furler) and had a little fitting with a loop of shock cord (bungie cord?) that secured the coil. It was a Nico-Fico fitting, black nylon, made to secure halyard coils. User supplies shock cord loop so you make it whatever length needed, fitting mounts with 2 screws. I also had 2 of these fittings on my old WIDGEON to secure the halyard coils when sailing.
 
Dec 8, 2006
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Oday 26 Starr, SC
Sunbird

On our old CAL 21 we coiled the 3/16" dia. furling line (from the CDI Furler) and had a little fitting with a loop of shock cord (bungie cord?) that secured the coil. It was a Nico-Fico fitting, black nylon, made to secure halyard coils. User supplies shock cord loop so you make it whatever length needed, fitting mounts with 2 screws. I also had 2 of these fittings on my old WIDGEON to secure the halyard coils when sailing.
Sunbird,

Captain Herring who operates this forum also sell good line. Use only a marine grade line. I recommend 1/4 inch double braid, black or dark blue in color.

See here:

http://shop.odayowners.com/detail-rigging.htm

It is worth the few shekels that he charges for saftey and reliability and durability. Plus he has the correct lengths on record.

Ed K
 

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