How to use whisker pole?

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Mar 27, 2012
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Seaward Fox Washougal WA
So I have watched john kretschmer video on using whisker pole. I mounted mine to the front of my mast, attached the other end jaws down to the furled line, mast led line attached to outer end of pole, leveled the pole with the line from the mast. The pole was not extended at all. When trying to unfurl the head sail, it came out about a foot and then just bound up. I have watched the video over and over and can't figure out what I am missing. The pole came with the boat so I would think it is the right size. When hooked up and not extended, it is just past the furler. Any thoughts?
 

Kordie

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Aug 7, 2011
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Beneteau 393 Cruising Baja
I am thinking it is the right length when unextended, well maybe a bit over.

My research led me to buy a pole exactly the length between the mast and forestay (J measurement).
 
Jan 7, 2011
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Oday 322 East Chicago, IN
Bigjer40 said:
So I have watched john kretschmer video on using whisker pole. I mounted mine to the front of my mast, attached the other end jaws down to the furled line, mast led line attached to outer end of pole, leveled the pole with the line from the mast. The pole was not extended at all. When trying to unfurl the head sail, it came out about a foot and then just bound up. I have watched the video over and over and can't figure out what I am missing. The pole came with the boat so I would think it is the right size. When hooked up and not extended, it is just past the furler. Any thoughts?
I have only used mine just recently, and admittedly did not have it set up completely, but from your description, it sounds like you ran the furling line through the jaws of the pole...if that is what you meant, I do not think that s right. I think you run the jib sheet through the pole jaw.

Do you have a photo of your arrangement?

Greg
 
Mar 27, 2012
312
Seaward Fox Washougal WA
Thanks for the replies and sorry I don't have all the terminology down yet. The sheet that I am pulling is the one I had the jaws of the whisker pole on (jaws down and in this case it was the sheet on the port side going back to the winch). If you youTube how to use a whisker pole (can't get the URL on here from my IPhone) its the first one with john kretschmer. That is how I hooked it up and it would pull out about a foot and bind up at a weird angle. The pole was parallel to the deck.
 
Mar 27, 2012
312
Seaward Fox Washougal WA
Whisker Pole Rigged

Ok, so thank goodness someone snapped a pic of me trying to figure this out. I did realized quickly the mast led line or lift line was attached to the mast end of the whisker pole and I reattached it to the extending end of the pole. I then adjusted it so it was level to the deck. The mast end of the pole is jaws down on a big eye bolt or U bolt. The telescoping end jaws down on the furler sheet that I was trying to pull out. I know it is not the best pic, but hope it helps.
 

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Clark

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Jun 30, 2004
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Hunter 280 Lake Guntersville, AL
Review of connections . . .

The line from the mast goes onto the pole at the extended end to support the pole. The pole is clipped onto working sheet (the one you'll pull to unroll the jib) The lazy sheet must be loose (this could have been causing the bind-up) and the furling line must be loose to allow the sail to unfurl (this could be a cause as well).
Good Luck
 
Mar 27, 2012
312
Seaward Fox Washougal WA
Clark said:
The line from the mast goes onto the pole at the extended end to support the pole. The pole is clipped onto working sheet (the one you'll pull to unroll the jib) The lazy sheet must be loose (this could have been causing the bind-up) and the furling line must be loose to allow the sail to unfurl (this could be a cause as well).
Good Luck
Thanks Clark, all those were done. I know the picture shows the line from the mast on the mast end of the whisker pole, but I realized and changed that right away. So at this point sounds like it was set up right, but something else is wrong. It really felt like the pole was to long even when collapsed all the way.
 
Feb 26, 2004
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Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Maybe I'm missing something here, but are you trying to unfurl your jib with the pole attached?
 
May 25, 2004
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Hunter 260 Pepin, WI
When I run down wind, my jib stalls behind the main. This allows me to grab the clew and attach the pole without furling the jib. I then just trim the sheet in to hold the pole in the correct position.

If the jib isn't stalling, I don't need the pole.
 
Mar 27, 2012
312
Seaward Fox Washougal WA
Stu Jackson said:
Maybe I'm missing something here, but are you trying to unfurl your jib with the pole attached?
I am, that is how it is showed on the video. Is that wrong?
 
Mar 27, 2012
312
Seaward Fox Washougal WA
cephius (Dave) said:
When I run down wind, my jib stalls behind the main. This allows me to grab the clew and attach the pole without furling the jib. I then just trim the sheet in to hold the pole in the correct position.

If the jib isn't stalling, I don't need the pole.
Ok, so in this scenario would you go wing to wing?
 
Mar 27, 2012
312
Seaward Fox Washougal WA
The video has the crew furl the jib and attach the pole. Then the jib is unfurled. I guess I should have tried unfurled with the jib luffing????
 
May 25, 2004
958
Hunter 260 Pepin, WI
Yes, wing-and-wing. It is very rare that I use the whisker pole when the jib is on the lee. I just point a bit higher into the wind to keep it full.
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,064
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
I am, that is how it is showed on the video. Is that wrong?
I must admit, I haven't seen it done that way. Usually one has sailed upwind and then for going downwind the jib is already out. If you've been sailing already, you don't roll up the jib to deploy the pole.
 
Mar 27, 2012
312
Seaward Fox Washougal WA
Stu Jackson said:
I must admit, I haven't seen it done that way. Usually one has sailed upwind and then for going downwind the jib is already out. If you've been sailing already, you don't roll up the jib to deploy the pole.
Well it doesn't work for me, so I am gonna try your way! Not much online about how to do it. I bought the boat and broker didn't even give me a walk thru. Just said "your staying in my marina right" I said no and he said see ya later and fasted me off! Learning on the fly here. Thanks for the responses.
 
May 25, 2004
958
Hunter 260 Pepin, WI
When you attempt to unfurl the jib, watch the head (top). The whisker pole topping lift may be wrapping around the jib as the jib unfurls. I've had that happen with my spinnaker halyard. It causes the symptoms you are describing, the jib binds half way out.

To prevent this the lifting line must be kept tight, or clear of the jib.
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,064
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Well it doesn't work for me, so I am gonna try your way! Not much online about how to do it. I bought the boat and broker didn't even give me a walk thru. Just said "your staying in my marina right" I said no and he said see ya later and fasted me off! Learning on the fly here. Thanks for the responses.
It's like reefing. Try doing it at your slip when there is no wind.
 

gpdno

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May 16, 2011
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Watkins 27 Venice
So that is how I setup my whisker pole. I clip it to the working sheet while the genoa is furled. Level the pole with the topping lift, then deploy the genoa. Depending on the wind strength the jib may not fully deploy at first. In light wind sometimes I have to be patient until I get enough wind to fully deploy the genoa.
 

Kordie

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Aug 7, 2011
144
Beneteau 393 Cruising Baja
Putting the pole up while the sail is furled is new to me.

What we do is run the loose sheet forward and hook into the pole. Then lift the other end and hook onto mast.

Then I raise the pole so it is level and have someone tighten the topping lift.

With the pole pointed forward we then throw off the working sheet and pull on the sheet in the pole. When the sail gets to the pole we then swing the pole back until it is perpendicular to the wind.

To release then I hold the pole. Bring the boat up until the sail starts to back wind then the sail is tacked and I am left holding the pole which is then stowed for next use.

hope this makes sense.
 
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