Holding Power

May 20, 2016
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Catalina 36 MK1 94 Everett, WA
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which do you think will let me sleep better 1) 33lb Bruce with 20’ of 5/16 or 2) 35lb Mantus with 120’ of 5/16 chain.

Mahalo
 
Oct 25, 2011
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Island Packet IP31 Lake St. Louis, Montreal
Mantus every time, in my experience. We changed form a Bruce to the Mantus last season and the difference has been remarkable
 
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Mar 1, 2012
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1961 Rhodes Meridian 25 Texas coast
Either one,, but I'd use more chain on the Bruce. I've done nearly 12,000 cruising miles, and used a 22 pound Bruce clone on my 25 footer the entire time, no problems, even in some 65 MPH winds . I carry 75 feet of chain.
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Jul 27, 2011
5,134
Bavaria 38E Alamitos Bay
If you believe the published static anchor-holding tests, plus the field-use testimonials from folks on this forum, the hands-down consensus choice for holding power would be for the Mantus.
 
Mar 26, 2011
3,671
Corsair F-24 MK I Deale, MD
Based on many tests, the holding capacity (not power--that is for energy) of the Bruce in sand or mud is about 2-5 times less per pound than the Mantus. Hooking is different. The Bruce is probably light for soft mud.

I'd keep both.
 
Dec 25, 2000
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Hunter Passage 42 Shelter Bay, WA
Thanks Les, but I'll pass on both. Happy with our 40 pound Danforth, 20 pound kellet and 50' of G-4 chain.
 
Feb 2, 2010
373
Island Packet 37 Hull #2 Harpswell Me
Mantus every time, both for holding and quickness to reset if it should let go.
 
May 20, 2016
3,015
Catalina 36 MK1 94 Everett, WA
3) the anchor snubber for the all chain rode attached to the mantus.
actually there is 250' of 5/8 8-plait backing up the chain -- and a Mantus bridal + chain hook for when it is all chain. 60' of water at 6:1
 
Jan 19, 2010
12,553
Hobie 16 & Rhodes 22 Skeeter Charleston
Mantus every time, in my experience. We changed form a Bruce to the Mantus last season and the difference has been remarkable
Just curious... but did your Bruce fail often? Or did it just seem like the Mantus was more dug-in when your retrieved it?
 
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Feb 2, 2010
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Island Packet 37 Hull #2 Harpswell Me
Just curious... but did your Bruce fail often? Or did it just seem like the Mantus was more dug-in when your retrieved it?
My previous experience was with a CQR but the quick resets is a company quote, so i am not disparaging the Bruce but would never return to an old style anchor.
 
Jul 27, 2011
5,134
Bavaria 38E Alamitos Bay
The anchor draggings I've witnessed appear to have been the result of improperly-set anchors, and/or the use of undersized ones. I've spent many nights on the hook in both FL and CA. My wildest ride was during a thunderstorm at De Soto Point in FL. The rain was so hard that I could not see the bow of my 30-ft Pearson from behind the cockpit spray dodger. I looked astern to see many boats anchored between me and the beach as I swung wildly (just as they did) on my genuine Danforth, praying :pray: that it held through the "ordeal"--which it did.:yeah: But, it was not a 60-knot storm.
 
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Oct 19, 2017
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O'Day Mariner 19 Littleton, NH
I grew up on all chain for our 56' schooner. Never known to drag with a plow from the mid 70s. Couldn't tell you what size, but my father kept the hurricane anchor behind the ladder next to my bunk, it was as big as a 14 year old boy and 5 times as heavy, I think. Never used.

- Will (Dragonfly)
 
Jul 27, 2011
5,134
Bavaria 38E Alamitos Bay
With electric windlasses these days, I question the need for a "separate" storm anchor. Just carry a larger one as the bower all of the time if you're a cruising boat. Perhaps keep a smaller, but adequate, kedge on the stern.
 
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May 12, 2004
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Hunter Cherubini 30 New Port Richey
Most of the anchor dragging I've witnessed appears to have been the result of improperly-set anchors
I'll second that. Even the best, whatever that may be, anchor will drag if not set properly or is the wrong type anchor for the holding ground. I've watched people just drop all the holding gear off the bow and then go back to the cockpit or worse, just get off the boat and wonder why their boat is dragging. Educating people on the finesses of anchoring properly is key. Myself, I have a 25# Plastimo plow with 35 ft of 3/8 C4 chain with 5/8 rode behind it. When properly set, I have rode out 50+ knots without a problem. Of course, if I was sitting over a rocky bottom, might be a different story.
 

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Mar 16, 2010
5,937
Beneteau 411 Oceanis Annapolis
Leslie; unless you have a good spot to stow that Bruce I would unshackle it, sell it and get a second anchor you can pack away for that gawd awful day you lose your main anchor and need a plan B. In the mean time you have a kedge option. I like the alloy Fortress/Guardian anchors.

As with any tool, practice using it.
 
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