I have a question about the “center board” on a Hunter 22. When the boat is on the trailer and the board is resting on the cross piece of the frame it is “snugged” right up into the hull. However when it is in the water the aft end – or tip – of the board hangs down several inches making a V shape between it and the hull. Please see the attached illustration. (I use the term illustration loosely as I am a better photographer than a marine architect.) No matter how tight I have the haul up line the board will never come all the way up. This is really not a problem except when the boat swings on her mooring and will sometimes catch the mooring line in the V. Do any of you know if your boat does the same thing or do you have any thoughts about how I might fix this?? Thanx in advance..
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You pose a very interesting question. I wonder if anyone will know. Unless they have had your problem or have dived on their boat how would they? Maybe someone who has had their boat off the trailer on stands or in a sling. So you are saying that the trailer pushes the board into the trunk. Can you then see anything different inside the boat like slack line?
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Ed - Thanx for the reply. I have not noticed any slack in the haul up line. In fact when she is on the trailer I have gone aboard and tried to pull up any slack. There seems to be none. Since there is no slack, and no slipping I.E. cleats, blocks, etc., etc. my best guess is that the line is stretching. It would have to stretch several inches however to make as much difference as it does. I repaired the board approx. three years ago and replaced the line at that time. Of course I did not notice the issue prior to the repair so have no reference as to old line versus new line. I have thought about the stretching before, but did not want to offer a solution in case someone came up with a better answer.
Your thoughts?
gary
Ed - Thanx for the reply. I have not noticed any slack in the haul up line. In fact when she is on the trailer I have gone aboard and tried to pull up any slack. There seems to be none. Since there is no slack, and no slipping I.E. cleats, blocks, etc., etc. my best guess is that the line is stretching. It would have to stretch several inches however to make as much difference as it does. I repaired the board approx. three years ago and replaced the line at that time. Of course I did not notice the issue prior to the repair so have no reference as to old line versus new line. I have thought about the stretching before, but did not want to offer a solution in case someone came up with a better answer.
Your thoughts?
gary
A "stretchy" line could allow this, but my 'board would sag also without line stretch. I mounted a cleat on the end of the table support just below where the line comes through the cam cleat. I pull the line in tight, cleat it off, no more sag. The cleat also helps by giving a place to hang the coiled line.
My H22 sits in the water year round, but when I have hauled it out for maintenance I noted that my keel doesnt snug up all the way. Mine hangs down as you described also. I would bet that if you were to suspend yours, like when doing a haul out (i dont have a trailer to put it on), it hangs all the time. I bet that it only snugs up cause its resting on the trailer.
ps - nice drawing
I will see if I can dig out a pic of the last haul out.
ps - nice drawing
I will see if I can dig out a pic of the last haul out.Sagging centerboard..
inarathree it is not nice to make fun of the artistically challenged. It is beginning to sound like this is a characteristic of the Hunter design. I have a cleat like the one mentioned, and have checked for knots and the like, but will check again. As I stated this is not a problem except when it tangles with the mooring line. We have tides here averaging 20 feet and lots of tidal action in the cove where she is moored. Boats swinging quite a bit. Anymore thought?
Gary
inarathree it is not nice to make fun of the artistically challenged.
It is beginning to sound like this is a characteristic of the Hunter design. I have a cleat like the one mentioned, and have checked for knots and the like, but will check again. As I stated this is not a problem except when it tangles with the mooring line. We have tides here averaging 20 feet and lots of tidal action in the cove where she is moored. Boats swinging quite a bit. Anymore thought?Gary
Photo as promised.
No offense to the artistically challenged. I have a BFA, so dont ask me to do math. As you will see in the photo I am follically challenged.
No offense to the artistically challenged. I have a BFA, so dont ask me to do math. As you will see in the photo I am follically challenged.
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If you remove the table you should be able to get to everything except the end which actualy connects to the board. It may have a frayed cable. Once the table is out of the way you can probably make some sort of adjustment.
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inarathree - Ah yes -- I see you have the dreaded drooping center board syndrome also. I have a feeling some designer at Hunter is having a good laugh over the trick he has pulled on all of hapless 22 owners. Of course the problem is on the bottom of the boat. Who would know??
Thanx for finding the photo..
Gary
inarathree - Ah yes -- I see you have the dreaded drooping center board syndrome also. I have a feeling some designer at Hunter is having a good laugh over the trick he has pulled on all of hapless 22 owners. Of course the problem is on the bottom of the boat. Who would know??
Thanx for finding the photo..
Gary
Gary & Inarathree,
I trailer my H22 and have done work on the swing keel. I'm about to replace it entirelly (Foss Foam, FL) as it had failed towards the end of last season. Your problem may be as stated above or it could be that the up-haul line/cable's point of connection on the swing keel is "off" a bit, not allowing it to rotate fully into the trunk.
When on the trailer (original magic tilt), the swing keel is fully inserted into the trunk and resting on a support board (trailer).
Have you or a PO done any work on the swing keel that may have replaced the up-haul cable padeye / connection?? It's all a matter of geometry (I'm not trying be too technical here...). Also, I've had failure of the pivot point block for the up-haul cable including the fiberglass trunk support in that area. It' located all the way fwd & high on the trunk against the compression post / bulkhead. This also requires removal of the table to inspect / repair. (repair at sea is NOT fun !! .. do your inspections NOW, replace if there is ANY doubt.)
One more consideration, the swing keel is designed to be bouyant. thus, when at the mooring, there is some assistance to help the keel back up into the trunk. Hence the "haul-out" picture of the sagging keel from Inarathree is somewhat misleading as there is no bouyant force acting on the keel.
I trailer my H22 and have done work on the swing keel. I'm about to replace it entirelly (Foss Foam, FL) as it had failed towards the end of last season. Your problem may be as stated above or it could be that the up-haul line/cable's point of connection on the swing keel is "off" a bit, not allowing it to rotate fully into the trunk.
When on the trailer (original magic tilt), the swing keel is fully inserted into the trunk and resting on a support board (trailer).
Have you or a PO done any work on the swing keel that may have replaced the up-haul cable padeye / connection?? It's all a matter of geometry (I'm not trying be too technical here...). Also, I've had failure of the pivot point block for the up-haul cable including the fiberglass trunk support in that area. It' located all the way fwd & high on the trunk against the compression post / bulkhead. This also requires removal of the table to inspect / repair. (repair at sea is NOT fun !! .. do your inspections NOW, replace if there is ANY doubt.)
One more consideration, the swing keel is designed to be bouyant. thus, when at the mooring, there is some assistance to help the keel back up into the trunk. Hence the "haul-out" picture of the sagging keel from Inarathree is somewhat misleading as there is no bouyant force acting on the keel.
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Thanx SeaTR -- I have done work on the board, but only replaced the line and did not move the pad eye. However the other things you mention I will check. Of course I need to wait for the snow to go down so I can get to the boat to remove the table and have a look see. If it doesn't stop snowing pretty soon I will never get the boat out of the yard anyway so all of this may be a moot point.
Gary
Thanx SeaTR -- I have done work on the board, but only replaced the line and did not move the pad eye. However the other things you mention I will check. Of course I need to wait for the snow to go down so I can get to the boat to remove the table and have a look see. If it doesn't stop snowing pretty soon I will never get the boat out of the yard anyway so all of this may be a moot point.
Gary
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