I have an insulating sock from a deisel heater I replaced. I instaled the new heater about 3' from the transom so I didn't need the sock. The sock I removed is fiberglass. Let me know if you need it. I'll make you a deal!
Fuel pickup location for a Diesel heater
- Thread starter mermike
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I installed one 3 years ago. Worked flawlessly. There are a lot of trucks in Jina that use them.
Maybe next time! Make sure you consider condensation build up in that long run.Shoot, I already bought one. It's by the foot so I can't return it.
Installed a Wallas furnace in 2006 with a very short exhaust pipe run; maybe three feet. Even then, that sock was expensive. It seems all boat stuff is expensive.
Update. Heater is in. It's going to be a game changer. That baby cranks it out!
Pictures to follow. It's cold and dark outside, but not in the cabin.
Happy Thanksgiving!
Pictures to follow. It's cold and dark outside, but not in the cabin.
Happy Thanksgiving!
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jssailem
SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
- Oct 22, 2014
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I ended up tapping the fuel tank. It didn't go great. The step bit caught and torqued the sheet metal. I bludgeoned it back into a semblance of flat. It took 2 tries to run the fuel line. The first attempt went up along the fuel fill, behind the galley and down into the space beneath the lazarette. Too much up as it turned out. I couldn't get the fuel to flow. So I undid about 90 minutes of work in 30 seconds and routed it beneath the floor.
The heater is installed in a cavity at the bottom of the lazarette designated as an optional water tank.
You might think this was a cookie sheet disguised as a heat shield. You'd be right.
I drilled holes for the heater output and input at each end, plus one for wiring and another for fuel. I also drilled a hole for the exhaust.
I wrapped the exhaust elbow with header tape (nasty stuff) and used a heavy sock for the rest. I insulated heavily due to the confined compartment.I also wrapped the output where it passes through the bulkhead. Didn't want any fiery surprises.
I put the skin fitting through the transom. I located it precisely and scientifically - it was the spot I could reach. Don't ask me what I'm going to do if the rudder post ever needs attention - there is no access without major disassembly of bulkheads and possibly more.
I used a stainless standoff to support the exhaust and keep it elevated above the bottom. It also hold the nasty header tape in place.
Pictures were also difficult. There is almost no room to move. Everything had to be assembled in the correct order, which could not be determined without trail and error. Some of the assembly was done blind and then verified with a mirror or phone.
All in all a difficult project, but the admiral is very happy with the result, and so am I. Given the level of difficulty I think the Webasto was the right choice. Though you can indeed purchase many Chinesium replicas for what the Webasto cost, I would not want to have to reinstall this again and hope that the extra money spent will be repaid in reliability.
I have a couple more picture to post tomorrow, but now it's time for
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The heater is installed in a cavity at the bottom of the lazarette designated as an optional water tank.
You might think this was a cookie sheet disguised as a heat shield. You'd be right.
I drilled holes for the heater output and input at each end, plus one for wiring and another for fuel. I also drilled a hole for the exhaust.
I wrapped the exhaust elbow with header tape (nasty stuff) and used a heavy sock for the rest. I insulated heavily due to the confined compartment.I also wrapped the output where it passes through the bulkhead. Didn't want any fiery surprises.
I put the skin fitting through the transom. I located it precisely and scientifically - it was the spot I could reach. Don't ask me what I'm going to do if the rudder post ever needs attention - there is no access without major disassembly of bulkheads and possibly more.
I used a stainless standoff to support the exhaust and keep it elevated above the bottom. It also hold the nasty header tape in place.
Pictures were also difficult. There is almost no room to move. Everything had to be assembled in the correct order, which could not be determined without trail and error. Some of the assembly was done blind and then verified with a mirror or phone.
All in all a difficult project, but the admiral is very happy with the result, and so am I. Given the level of difficulty I think the Webasto was the right choice. Though you can indeed purchase many Chinesium replicas for what the Webasto cost, I would not want to have to reinstall this again and hope that the extra money spent will be repaid in reliability.
I have a couple more picture to post tomorrow, but now it's time for
.
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jssailem
SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
- Oct 22, 2014
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Nice work!
Looking forward to the opportunity to “Feel the Heat”.
Looking forward to the opportunity to “Feel the Heat”.
IMHO every boat with an enclosed cabin and internal combustion engine should have a working CO detector aboard.
jssailem
SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
- Oct 22, 2014
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The CO detector needs to use it’s own energy source and the batteries need to be changed the same way home batteries in detector’s are changed. Twice a year fresh power and maintenance cleaning of the contacts.
Mine is hardwired to the house bank. I've been thinking about installing another in the heater bay as an early warning system.
jssailem
SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
- Oct 22, 2014
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I am always trying to outsmart Murphy... I have two CO detectors that use 9V batteries. I replace them every 6 months. I know they are not worn out. It is a habit. I also have a propane monitor/safety switch. It is constantly sniffing the area near the bilge. It is wired into the boat's poser system. I figure if the boat batteries die, I can fall back on the reliability of the independent CO detectors.
While aboard my buddies boat Mahalo, we were awakened around 2AM by a screaming CO detector. The wind had changed while we slept. The Honda generator behind the cockpit was now blowing exhaust towards the boat. It was enough to excite the detector. We turned off the generator and aired out the cabin. The other two sailors went back to sleep. I baby sat the detector till it stopped yelling and the cabin PPM air reported safe. Wrapped in a blanket, the forward hatch and the companionway open to the 20º breeze cleared the air within 10 minutes.
Murphy was trying. Chalk one up on the good guys side.
While aboard my buddies boat Mahalo, we were awakened around 2AM by a screaming CO detector. The wind had changed while we slept. The Honda generator behind the cockpit was now blowing exhaust towards the boat. It was enough to excite the detector. We turned off the generator and aired out the cabin. The other two sailors went back to sleep. I baby sat the detector till it stopped yelling and the cabin PPM air reported safe. Wrapped in a blanket, the forward hatch and the companionway open to the 20º breeze cleared the air within 10 minutes.
Murphy was trying. Chalk one up on the good guys side.
What in the name of ^*#^$&%* were your buddies doing with a jury rigged generator on the back of the boat running at 2:00 AM
? That is exactly how people die of CO poisoning while sleeping . Also, when CO detectors react to CO, it's rather slowly . I DO NOT want to be lamenting your obituary on this site. You contribute far too much material and losing you would be not be appreciated. Stay away from people like that.
Don’t worry, we’ll still have the material he left behind.
Edit: This comment, humor intended, sadly brought up thoughts of Jon Eisberg. I do miss him. What an incredible person he was! He made an impact on me, and a lot of other people.
Last couple of pictures. Top one shows the thermal image. Bottom one shows the location of the fuel pickup.
Before we leave this topic (which I helped divert by the CO comments), I want to thank @mermike for showing us his project. Particularly, I want to thank him for telling us (with humor) about his mistakes and workarounds, and also for providing great pictures of the work. This will come in handy when I tackle the same project in a year or so. Many thanks for the contributions, and I wish you a warm winter.