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Hate to be a nay sayer, but these scenarios almost never turn out good. Please note I said, "almost". Please don't argue the examples of the small percentage that survive or the extremely rare ones that flourish. It sank, let it be. They're like Frankenstein's monster, the more you try to put life back into them, the more disfigured and cantakerous they become. Because they were already dead.
Hate to be a nay sayer, but these scenarios almost never turn out good. Please note I said, "almost". Please don't argue the examples of the small percentage that survive or the extremely rare ones that flourish. It sank, let it be. They're like Frankenstein's monster, the more you try to put life back into them, the more disfigured and cantakerous they become. Because they were already dead.
I have always regretted......
I have always regretted the time I did not sail and instead was working on an older boat to bring it back to life (One of them was a Bruce Roberts 31/32 Cutter rig). After taking on 2 basket cases on 2 different occasions I finally decided that that was not what I wanted to do. I wanted to sail, not rebuild. In both cases I lost probably about $3,000 total and 4 years of my time. That is when I finally realized that "if you dont have much money" rebuilding is the one thing that you DONT want to do. It seemed that I either had time and no money or money and no time. I would sit on the beach and watch all the other sailboats out there and my 'dream' just washing away. Everyone is different in what they want. Again, do you want to sail or do you want to rebuild.....which will be your hobby for the next several years? Ross is one of the exceptions to the rule. He actually finished his project. I believe he said the cost was 30K and 9 Years. To him it was worth it. To me it was not. In your case, are you going to work on your boat in a free slip? This is much more difficult than if on dry ground. If on dry ground, will you get a free haul-out and free work area at a free boat yard or are you getting a free semi and a free crane to take it back to your house? If you have to buy a new motor and new sails, that will cost you more than a pretty good Catalina 30 in ready to rock and roll condition. If you are going to look for a used older motor than it seems pointless in rebuilding because all you will have when you are done is an old boat with an old motor which still can not be depended on. So much for the 'at least you know what you have' idea. Are you counting on free labor? Consider that friends move away, get divorced and get consumed in their own lives and numerous other reasons for not being available. After several years of losing the dream, I finally had a reality check. My plan was to do what some young people do in buying a house. Buy small and slowly upgrade. I had and sold a perfectly good MacGregor 25 and really missed it. That was a $2500 investment that I actually got back. I sold it to buy "my dream". After i sold 'my dream' for much less than I had into it, I had $5,000 in cash. I bought an older Catalina 25. It was in ready to motor and sail condition. I was back in Hog Heaven. It was not nearly as big as I wanted, but I was sailing again. Me and my significant other really enjoyed being on the water again. I eventualy replaced the motor with a brand new outboard and did lots of cosmetic work on the boat to make it much better looking. A few years later, I sold it for $7,500 dollars which is about what I had into it. It looked great on the outside and brand new on the inside. By that time I had already saved another $7,500 dollars for a bigger boat. I rolled the whole $15K into a Catalina 30. From day 1, I was able to sail it and motor it. The inside looked abused, the water tank was split, the AC didnt work neither did the head and many other things. I didnt care. I could replace all of that in time. My main concern was that it was safe to motor and sail. Within 5 years I had gradually invested another $15 into it. I had all new cusions, bimimi and dodger, new fuel tank, new water tank, New marine Heater/AC unit, new stove/oven and lots of other things. The boat looked brand new inside. When it hit 20 years old, my insurance Co. required a survey. It surveyed out to $30K. and we upped the Insurance to $30K. About 1 1/2 years later, Hurricane Katrina caused some damage and they totalled me out. I received total of $34K for the boat, personal belongings etc. Again, I broke out about even. After receiving my Insurance check, I immediately bought an older Allied 39 Ketch for $40K. This is $6K more than I received from my Insurance Co. It was a pretty good buy but not the deal of the century. Again......from the day I took ownership, I was able to sail and motor it. It can best be described as mechanically and structurally sound. Outside, the hull could certainly use a paint job. Inside, it still has that 1970's look.....woodgrain formica on the walls and everything is old. I intend to spend about another $15K on it over the next 5 Years in upgrading. It will have the potential of being worth more than I have into it. Anyway, my plan was eventually to buy a boat I could afford, no matter how small. It would have to be in motoring and sailing condition and I would take care of the cosmetics as my time and money dictated. It idint take all that long to get a larger boat. By the way, I have enjoyed every minute of all of my boats that I have actually sailed. I haved enjoyed very little of the 2 boats that I worked on and never completed. That dream wore off quickly. Take this info for what it is worth. Its your decision. All can do is relate my own experiences. Note that I already have had excellent woodworking, electrical and fiberglass skills prior to my failed endeavors. I wish you the very best in whatever you decide. That I sincerely mean. Tony B
I have always regretted the time I did not sail and instead was working on an older boat to bring it back to life (One of them was a Bruce Roberts 31/32 Cutter rig). After taking on 2 basket cases on 2 different occasions I finally decided that that was not what I wanted to do. I wanted to sail, not rebuild. In both cases I lost probably about $3,000 total and 4 years of my time. That is when I finally realized that "if you dont have much money" rebuilding is the one thing that you DONT want to do. It seemed that I either had time and no money or money and no time. I would sit on the beach and watch all the other sailboats out there and my 'dream' just washing away. Everyone is different in what they want. Again, do you want to sail or do you want to rebuild.....which will be your hobby for the next several years? Ross is one of the exceptions to the rule. He actually finished his project. I believe he said the cost was 30K and 9 Years. To him it was worth it. To me it was not. In your case, are you going to work on your boat in a free slip? This is much more difficult than if on dry ground. If on dry ground, will you get a free haul-out and free work area at a free boat yard or are you getting a free semi and a free crane to take it back to your house? If you have to buy a new motor and new sails, that will cost you more than a pretty good Catalina 30 in ready to rock and roll condition. If you are going to look for a used older motor than it seems pointless in rebuilding because all you will have when you are done is an old boat with an old motor which still can not be depended on. So much for the 'at least you know what you have' idea. Are you counting on free labor? Consider that friends move away, get divorced and get consumed in their own lives and numerous other reasons for not being available. After several years of losing the dream, I finally had a reality check. My plan was to do what some young people do in buying a house. Buy small and slowly upgrade. I had and sold a perfectly good MacGregor 25 and really missed it. That was a $2500 investment that I actually got back. I sold it to buy "my dream". After i sold 'my dream' for much less than I had into it, I had $5,000 in cash. I bought an older Catalina 25. It was in ready to motor and sail condition. I was back in Hog Heaven. It was not nearly as big as I wanted, but I was sailing again. Me and my significant other really enjoyed being on the water again. I eventualy replaced the motor with a brand new outboard and did lots of cosmetic work on the boat to make it much better looking. A few years later, I sold it for $7,500 dollars which is about what I had into it. It looked great on the outside and brand new on the inside. By that time I had already saved another $7,500 dollars for a bigger boat. I rolled the whole $15K into a Catalina 30. From day 1, I was able to sail it and motor it. The inside looked abused, the water tank was split, the AC didnt work neither did the head and many other things. I didnt care. I could replace all of that in time. My main concern was that it was safe to motor and sail. Within 5 years I had gradually invested another $15 into it. I had all new cusions, bimimi and dodger, new fuel tank, new water tank, New marine Heater/AC unit, new stove/oven and lots of other things. The boat looked brand new inside. When it hit 20 years old, my insurance Co. required a survey. It surveyed out to $30K. and we upped the Insurance to $30K. About 1 1/2 years later, Hurricane Katrina caused some damage and they totalled me out. I received total of $34K for the boat, personal belongings etc. Again, I broke out about even. After receiving my Insurance check, I immediately bought an older Allied 39 Ketch for $40K. This is $6K more than I received from my Insurance Co. It was a pretty good buy but not the deal of the century. Again......from the day I took ownership, I was able to sail and motor it. It can best be described as mechanically and structurally sound. Outside, the hull could certainly use a paint job. Inside, it still has that 1970's look.....woodgrain formica on the walls and everything is old. I intend to spend about another $15K on it over the next 5 Years in upgrading. It will have the potential of being worth more than I have into it. Anyway, my plan was eventually to buy a boat I could afford, no matter how small. It would have to be in motoring and sailing condition and I would take care of the cosmetics as my time and money dictated. It idint take all that long to get a larger boat. By the way, I have enjoyed every minute of all of my boats that I have actually sailed. I haved enjoyed very little of the 2 boats that I worked on and never completed. That dream wore off quickly. Take this info for what it is worth. Its your decision. All can do is relate my own experiences. Note that I already have had excellent woodworking, electrical and fiberglass skills prior to my failed endeavors. I wish you the very best in whatever you decide. That I sincerely mean. Tony B
There is a factor in this equation that gets
short shift. For me there is very real pleasure involved in skilled craftsmanship. I could have purchased a boat that would have served me perfectly well but from my childhood I have wanted to build a boat. If it had taken me 15 years to make it the way I wanted, then I would have cheerfully spent 15 years on the project. But bear in mind, that is me and my mindset. For me it is valid , for others it may be insanity. I would tell anybody that would endeavor to resurrect an old boat that if they don't love to work on such as that then they should never start. I know men that will hire me to do jobs that are within the skills of everyone but they simply don't like doing. So they earn their money doing what they are good at and pay me to do the work they don't like.
short shift. For me there is very real pleasure involved in skilled craftsmanship. I could have purchased a boat that would have served me perfectly well but from my childhood I have wanted to build a boat. If it had taken me 15 years to make it the way I wanted, then I would have cheerfully spent 15 years on the project. But bear in mind, that is me and my mindset. For me it is valid , for others it may be insanity. I would tell anybody that would endeavor to resurrect an old boat that if they don't love to work on such as that then they should never start. I know men that will hire me to do jobs that are within the skills of everyone but they simply don't like doing. So they earn their money doing what they are good at and pay me to do the work they don't like.
There was a guy once...
who was given an derelict old boat that sat out in the middle of a field. Almost as a joke. All he had to do was restore it. He started working on it and many said it would never work and wouldn't pay. He worked on it steadily for over 13 months and completely rebuilt it. He then set off and sailed it single handed around the world. True story. I bet some of you have heard it.
who was given an derelict old boat that sat out in the middle of a field. Almost as a joke. All he had to do was restore it. He started working on it and many said it would never work and wouldn't pay. He worked on it steadily for over 13 months and completely rebuilt it. He then set off and sailed it single handed around the world. True story. I bet some of you have heard it.
an outhouse 33 is not worth the effort!
I would not think the money and effort needed to bring it back is worth doing. I have sailed a good OI 33 and it is a dog. The boat was designed to get a condo on the water not a sailboat. At the cost of materials these days i think it is a foolish thing to try to rebuild one. The boat all fixed up will only bring 15 k. assuming everything is done properly with good marine materials. It will cost that much to power the boat! I have done 6 complete renovations. I have Wholesale accounts for material, wood, paint hardware and engines. To make a rebuild work you have to have a good platform, and some good assets to start with. like good engine. pumps, head. tankage wireing solid bulkheads ect. You cant really do a proper job at installing all this stuff in the water. the hull without bulkheads is not safe to move much less sail. the loads induced will just break it apart. Then you will be responsible to remove the wreck. I feel at todays prices, with boat prices falling and slips going way up in this area. You could buy with limited down, seller finance. and fix up all you want and save a lot of money and effort. There are always lots of things to do on a boat.. The OI 33 is a hard sell at best, they wont go to weather or run and the windage so is great they sail like a brick. besides you will have to redesin the whole boat. How will you know how much material to put where, how much glass is enough. where you can put how much to keep the boat on its lines. if you screw up and put to much weight in you make the problem worse. You could end up with a lot of money in a boat that is virtually not sea worthy or sailable. Your probably not the first guy he tried to give it to. If you dont do everything by the book it wont be insurable, which means you cant get insurance on it. Then you cant finance it or put it in a commercial marina because they requre insurance! Do your self a favor. look for a deal on a complete or nearly complete boat. then spend your efforts making it what you want. you will be glad you did.
I would not think the money and effort needed to bring it back is worth doing. I have sailed a good OI 33 and it is a dog. The boat was designed to get a condo on the water not a sailboat. At the cost of materials these days i think it is a foolish thing to try to rebuild one. The boat all fixed up will only bring 15 k. assuming everything is done properly with good marine materials. It will cost that much to power the boat! I have done 6 complete renovations. I have Wholesale accounts for material, wood, paint hardware and engines. To make a rebuild work you have to have a good platform, and some good assets to start with. like good engine. pumps, head. tankage wireing solid bulkheads ect. You cant really do a proper job at installing all this stuff in the water. the hull without bulkheads is not safe to move much less sail. the loads induced will just break it apart. Then you will be responsible to remove the wreck. I feel at todays prices, with boat prices falling and slips going way up in this area. You could buy with limited down, seller finance. and fix up all you want and save a lot of money and effort. There are always lots of things to do on a boat.. The OI 33 is a hard sell at best, they wont go to weather or run and the windage so is great they sail like a brick. besides you will have to redesin the whole boat. How will you know how much material to put where, how much glass is enough. where you can put how much to keep the boat on its lines. if you screw up and put to much weight in you make the problem worse. You could end up with a lot of money in a boat that is virtually not sea worthy or sailable. Your probably not the first guy he tried to give it to. If you dont do everything by the book it wont be insurable, which means you cant get insurance on it. Then you cant finance it or put it in a commercial marina because they requre insurance! Do your self a favor. look for a deal on a complete or nearly complete boat. then spend your efforts making it what you want. you will be glad you did.
be nice now ross
Thats what a new moter costs still in the box, assuming you do the swap out yourself. I agree a used motor from ebay is not a good idea. A better one would be to find someone rich thats taking out a perfectly good high hour engine and parcially or compleatly rebuilding it.
Thats what a new moter costs still in the box, assuming you do the swap out yourself. I agree a used motor from ebay is not a good idea. A better one would be to find someone rich thats taking out a perfectly good high hour engine and parcially or compleatly rebuilding it.
seems to me
There are two schools of thought here. One is the boat sank. The other, it just filled with water and did not sink. One is you are putting lipstick on a pig. The other, it's a free sailboat! One is you will shoot your eye out...ooops, wrong thread. One is it will cost a fortune for a motor. The other - get a 4 banger diesel from the junk yard. Heck, from a tractor supply company. It does not have to be marinized...it's a diesel. Buy a cheap used diesel Volvo/Benz/VW and scrap the body, keep the motor. One is it will cost a fortune to do the interior. The other? Find stuff on tree lawns and use the parts! Dressers, cabinets, etc. Exterior grade A/B Plywood is only $60 a sheet for 3/4". West Epoxy is what $100 a gallon? Whats not to like? One is it won't be worth sh** when you are done. The other says give it away when you are done. The price you pay for parts is just depreciation and the cost of experience. You don't have to make any money on it. If you break even, so much the better. Now, if we can all agree to keep arguing, then let's agree to find him a free or cheap boat that isn't such a pile. Or the parts therein to fix up this klunker. Heck, from some of the responses, I take it this thing doesn't need an anchor because "it don't go no where anyway"! It just sits there! What, I ask, could be better? A boat that is it's own anchor. That Charley Morgan is a hoot. Lastly, we all know 75% of the time you are sitting at the dock anyway and not sailing. So he has a barge that won't get out of it's way. So what. A little house paint and it will look like new, at the dock. But it will be HIS boat, and not the banks. As for the foaming..Look...you clean out the interior and bilge. Have I lost you yet? Dry it out with rags. Still awake here? Pretend you are building a bulkhead out of foam. Spray in Great Stuff foam, from side to side, where the main bulkhead was. You said it was gone right? Now, what will happen is this. The foam will expand and hold the hull together!!! It will not allow the hull to be crushed or flex (we call flexing "oil canning"), and it will stabilize it for the trip 90 miles upstream, assuming you aren't dumb enough to take it upstream in a Cane. See? The foam acts as a cheap, easy, dependable bulkhead. Temporary. Then you scrape it out when you get there. Or not!
There are two schools of thought here. One is the boat sank. The other, it just filled with water and did not sink. One is you are putting lipstick on a pig. The other, it's a free sailboat! One is you will shoot your eye out...ooops, wrong thread. One is it will cost a fortune for a motor. The other - get a 4 banger diesel from the junk yard. Heck, from a tractor supply company. It does not have to be marinized...it's a diesel. Buy a cheap used diesel Volvo/Benz/VW and scrap the body, keep the motor. One is it will cost a fortune to do the interior. The other? Find stuff on tree lawns and use the parts! Dressers, cabinets, etc. Exterior grade A/B Plywood is only $60 a sheet for 3/4". West Epoxy is what $100 a gallon? Whats not to like? One is it won't be worth sh** when you are done. The other says give it away when you are done. The price you pay for parts is just depreciation and the cost of experience. You don't have to make any money on it. If you break even, so much the better. Now, if we can all agree to keep arguing, then let's agree to find him a free or cheap boat that isn't such a pile. Or the parts therein to fix up this klunker. Heck, from some of the responses, I take it this thing doesn't need an anchor because "it don't go no where anyway"! It just sits there! What, I ask, could be better? A boat that is it's own anchor. That Charley Morgan is a hoot. Lastly, we all know 75% of the time you are sitting at the dock anyway and not sailing. So he has a barge that won't get out of it's way. So what. A little house paint and it will look like new, at the dock. But it will be HIS boat, and not the banks. As for the foaming..Look...you clean out the interior and bilge. Have I lost you yet? Dry it out with rags. Still awake here? Pretend you are building a bulkhead out of foam. Spray in Great Stuff foam, from side to side, where the main bulkhead was. You said it was gone right? Now, what will happen is this. The foam will expand and hold the hull together!!! It will not allow the hull to be crushed or flex (we call flexing "oil canning"), and it will stabilize it for the trip 90 miles upstream, assuming you aren't dumb enough to take it upstream in a Cane. See? The foam acts as a cheap, easy, dependable bulkhead. Temporary. Then you scrape it out when you get there. Or not!
Phil: '08 Gold Medal winner for Duration/Quantity?
Gotta be getting close (if there's a way to keep track)... There's a story or screenplay lurking here, somewhere (potential working title: "And HOW!"). An infinate array of contributors/characters with a couple interwoven concepts: The Dreamer and the Dream, the practical proof-in-the-pudding, it-can-be done craftsman (Ross, playing himself) and the equally experienced nay-sayers with stories of doom and hints of immanent danger. Written as a cliff-hanger, with all sorts of foreshadowing, both positive and negative, the reader could be swept towards an indeterminate ending (unlike A Perfect Storm or A Voyage for Madmen). Fun! Look for it theaters Spring of '09!
Gotta be getting close (if there's a way to keep track)... There's a story or screenplay lurking here, somewhere (potential working title: "And HOW!"). An infinate array of contributors/characters with a couple interwoven concepts: The Dreamer and the Dream, the practical proof-in-the-pudding, it-can-be done craftsman (Ross, playing himself) and the equally experienced nay-sayers with stories of doom and hints of immanent danger. Written as a cliff-hanger, with all sorts of foreshadowing, both positive and negative, the reader could be swept towards an indeterminate ending (unlike A Perfect Storm or A Voyage for Madmen). Fun! Look for it theaters Spring of '09!
Yeah , He did. He went missing about 5 years
later on a trip in the waters off Florida. Edit to add : didn't have an engine, or a GPS or an EPIRB or a chronometer or a VHF transceiver. Not that it would have made any difference.
later on a trip in the waters off Florida. Edit to add : didn't have an engine, or a GPS or an EPIRB or a chronometer or a VHF transceiver. Not that it would have made any difference.
- Jul 24, 2006
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WOW, MR LETTERMAN YOU GO!
You ring true my feelings of optimism, and my iner conflict with the very mixed replies. Some have me abumbling neophyte, nothing but dazling starry eyed optimism, others just plain stupid, ignorant and another statistic for the coast guard. I feel like Jim Carey with multiple personalities, taking both sides into acount and arguing the case with myself. Ross and Letterman have made me laugh outloud at the computer. Letterman has it down perfectly. With child support i will never be able to have a boat thats ready to go. I wouldn't pay that kind of money anyway, period. Hell if I'm gonna wait, might as well save up for a 43-46ft Island Packet, fell in love at St Pete strictly sail. Gonna go early tomorrow, will take lots of pictures, before i start and after each step. WHo knows, after a day or two, maybe even less i may just back out and the guy will have a free boat detail and trash hauloff. But durring those days I will dream and envision the boat as beautiful and pristine, gliding along on a tropical tack for the islands, my kids with that confidant swagger and smile that comes from being aboard a big boat. I won't ever sink, crash, or be in peril because it is a dream, not reality right? I do give in to the dream, it takes me away, lifts my spirits, and encourages optimisim in this tough, hard world. Just read the paper, watch the news, etc.
You ring true my feelings of optimism, and my iner conflict with the very mixed replies. Some have me abumbling neophyte, nothing but dazling starry eyed optimism, others just plain stupid, ignorant and another statistic for the coast guard. I feel like Jim Carey with multiple personalities, taking both sides into acount and arguing the case with myself. Ross and Letterman have made me laugh outloud at the computer. Letterman has it down perfectly. With child support i will never be able to have a boat thats ready to go. I wouldn't pay that kind of money anyway, period. Hell if I'm gonna wait, might as well save up for a 43-46ft Island Packet, fell in love at St Pete strictly sail. Gonna go early tomorrow, will take lots of pictures, before i start and after each step. WHo knows, after a day or two, maybe even less i may just back out and the guy will have a free boat detail and trash hauloff. But durring those days I will dream and envision the boat as beautiful and pristine, gliding along on a tropical tack for the islands, my kids with that confidant swagger and smile that comes from being aboard a big boat. I won't ever sink, crash, or be in peril because it is a dream, not reality right? I do give in to the dream, it takes me away, lifts my spirits, and encourages optimisim in this tough, hard world. Just read the paper, watch the news, etc.
Dreams...
...if you don't have them, you surely won't achieve them. If this is what you want, go for it. Just be realistic about what you are going to do with your available funds. Best wishes.
...if you don't have them, you surely won't achieve them. If this is what you want, go for it. Just be realistic about what you are going to do with your available funds. Best wishes.
This is kind of fun, Normally personallities
go and the irrational arguments start. This has remained kind of fun. I want to read for the surveyor role....(did I spell that right?) We still have the coast guard guy, the coroner, and the sucessfull DIY guy to cast. Sailormanbigd, I think you are thinking now. Life is short, make good decisions! r.w.landau
go and the irrational arguments start. This has remained kind of fun. I want to read for the surveyor role....(did I spell that right?) We still have the coast guard guy, the coroner, and the sucessfull DIY guy to cast. Sailormanbigd, I think you are thinking now. Life is short, make good decisions! r.w.landau
found a diesel
westerbeke (perkins by another name) for $850...running (you can hear it run) in Florida...look at dieselenginetrader.com From the I know I am not nuts department: Hello, You will be happy to know that you are correct. Bending wood dry is fine. The only risk is that the plank may break. The reason one would steam bend is to prevent the wood from breaking. Have a great day! Debra Swanson NorthWest School of Wooden Boatbuilding 42 N. Water Street Port Hadlock, WA 98339 Phone (360) 385-4948 Fax (360) 385-5089 Debra@nwboatschool.org Website: http://www. nwboatschool.org -----Original Message----- From: tho52mas@aim.com [mailto:tho52mas@aim.com] Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 8:43 PM To: info@nwboatschool.org Subject: need info too A year or so ago we witnessed a boat carpenter replacing the carvel hull on a quality 32' sailboat. He did not steam bend the planks but put them on and bent them in place using muscle and anything else. Then, he fastened the planks using bronze screws. When he was done, the boat looked spectacular. Our question is, will the sides relax to their bend over time without having the benefit of steam bending? The sides were 1" or so think by 6". My take on it is that the boards will relax and take on the shape of the bend. Everyone else thinks the first time the boat hits anything, the sides will pop out and she will sink. Who is correct? If you do not know the answer, can you pass me on to someone who might?
westerbeke (perkins by another name) for $850...running (you can hear it run) in Florida...look at dieselenginetrader.com From the I know I am not nuts department: Hello, You will be happy to know that you are correct. Bending wood dry is fine. The only risk is that the plank may break. The reason one would steam bend is to prevent the wood from breaking. Have a great day! Debra Swanson NorthWest School of Wooden Boatbuilding 42 N. Water Street Port Hadlock, WA 98339 Phone (360) 385-4948 Fax (360) 385-5089 Debra@nwboatschool.org Website: http://www. nwboatschool.org -----Original Message----- From: tho52mas@aim.com [mailto:tho52mas@aim.com] Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 8:43 PM To: info@nwboatschool.org Subject: need info too A year or so ago we witnessed a boat carpenter replacing the carvel hull on a quality 32' sailboat. He did not steam bend the planks but put them on and bent them in place using muscle and anything else. Then, he fastened the planks using bronze screws. When he was done, the boat looked spectacular. Our question is, will the sides relax to their bend over time without having the benefit of steam bending? The sides were 1" or so think by 6". My take on it is that the boards will relax and take on the shape of the bend. Everyone else thinks the first time the boat hits anything, the sides will pop out and she will sink. Who is correct? If you do not know the answer, can you pass me on to someone who might?
- Jul 24, 2006
- 628
letterman again!!!!!!!!!!
This is another big smile on my face from Letterman. I have emailed Jack about the westerbeake 40. I think it will fit, and is of the proper hp rating. I don't know anything about them, especially the tranny/gear. What is the ratio or reduction about. Will take measurements of the engine room tomorrow. Now this is what I was saying....1. build bulkheads and find/fix leaks 2.remove and replace rusted out motor with running replacement. 3. equals a sailable, motorable large boat for little money...then build as i go, but i can still use the boat... ARE YOU GUYS GETTING IT YET???? Come on, have anymore yeahs willing to convert from neahs! thanks guys, oh if there is a movie about it, do i get a part? better not say the corpse..cuz i feel a change in the wind says I
This is another big smile on my face from Letterman. I have emailed Jack about the westerbeake 40. I think it will fit, and is of the proper hp rating. I don't know anything about them, especially the tranny/gear. What is the ratio or reduction about. Will take measurements of the engine room tomorrow. Now this is what I was saying....1. build bulkheads and find/fix leaks 2.remove and replace rusted out motor with running replacement. 3. equals a sailable, motorable large boat for little money...then build as i go, but i can still use the boat... ARE YOU GUYS GETTING IT YET???? Come on, have anymore yeahs willing to convert from neahs! thanks guys, oh if there is a movie about it, do i get a part? better not say the corpse..cuz i feel a change in the wind says I
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