Electric fuel pump to replace lift pump Yanmar 3GM30F

Feb 16, 2021
391
Hunter Legend 35.5 Bellingham
What is the best way to connect the pump to the secondary filter? Do I need to use metal braid reinforced high pressure fuel line with a banjo fitting to the secondary filter like what is currently downstream of the lift pump?
 

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SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
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CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
If I understand the sequence.

Fuel tank - Secondary filter - new electric pump - Engine pump - Engine filter (primary) - fuel lines to high-pressure pump.

Between the tank and the engine, the fuel lines are standard hoses rated for diesel fuel. You can make them fancy, but there is no need. Basic black hoses are normal. The fuel in the hoses before the engine is at low pressure.
The fuel lines from the high-pressure pump to the injectors are different. They must be able to handle the pressures of the high-pressure pump, and usually are solid metal
 
Feb 16, 2021
391
Hunter Legend 35.5 Bellingham
Can I connect the pump positive wire to anything ignition switched in the engine compartment other than the starter solenoid? The draw is less than the 3 amp fuse recommended. I saw somewhere 1.4amps.
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
22,829
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
You can connect to any power source. You might want to have a switch that permits you to control the pump. Since the pump will be running when you turn the engine on, most choose to include it in the engine power system such as the engine key switch (other than a temporary power going to the glow plugs).
 
Jan 4, 2006
7,184
Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
The draw is less than the 3 amp fuse recommended. I saw somewhere 1.4amps.
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The 3A fuse is intended to protect the pump as well as the wiring.

Can I connect the pump positive wire to anything ignition switched in the engine compartment other than the starter solenoid?
Absolutely. However, I wouldn't follow the installation instructions of connecting the pump in series with an oil pressure alarm switch.

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In this arrangement, the fuel pump does not start until oil pressure is established. In your case, you want the fuel pump running before starting the engine and who knows, maybe it will assist in starting. Highly unlikely, but hope springs eternal. The oil press. alarm switch shuts down the fuel pump if the engine should die and the ignition keyed switch is unknowingly left in the run position. This is intended to prevent pumping fuel into an aspirated engine cylinder but not a fuel injected engine (think diesel) where any injector in good condition will prevent fuel flow under lift pump pressure.
 

MFD

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Jun 23, 2016
193
Hunter 41DS Pacific NW USA
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In your case, you want the fuel pump running before starting the engine and who knows, maybe it will assist in starting.
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My 4JH4AE is factory wired such that the pump starts when the ignition is on, engine running or not.

I just changed out the primary and secondary fuel filters. As somebody else noted earlier, purging the system after a filter change is another benefit of having the electric pump.
 
Feb 16, 2021
391
Hunter Legend 35.5 Bellingham
How do I bleed the system after installing the pump? I assume I should still use the bleeder screw on the secondary filter? Is it necessary to bleed further downstream?
 
Feb 26, 2004
22,996
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
As somebody else noted earlier, purging the system after a filter change is another benefit of having the electric pump.
...and, as Ralph noted about NOT using an oil pressure switch in the power to the pump, because it would be a way to defeat the great advantage of having an electric pump for BLEEDING.

FYI skippers Westerbeke and Universal actually added this oil pressure "trick" to their engine control system after the M25 and M25XP series, for the M30 and M35 for example. It created lots of bleeding headaches, which they argued by saying the newer engines were "self-bleeding." Bollocks, you still had to bleed the secondary engine mounted filter. Why? Because it was mounted vertically with no way to completely fill it up so it was necessary to bleed it via the screw at the top of the filter bracket.

I had to explain this to a fellow skipper as long ago as 2007! Yes, same concepts. Some bad ideas :thumbsdown: never die...:banghead:
 
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