Are Projects More Complicated Or Are We Getting Older?

Nov 10, 2015
195
Hunter 336 Columbia, SC
Hi All! This thread reminds me of why this forum so addicting. Everybody is down to Earth and tells it like it is! Let's just admit that whomever came up with the old adage "we're not getting older, we're getting better" was on the right track, however......wrong! Ha ha! And Kermit's interjection of the Hank, Jr. song about rowdy friends is right on target! "Whodathunk" there would come a time when you could consult a band of strangers about how to do this or that? In the old days, I would just ask dear old Dad or even read a book or magazine article on the subject! The times, they are a-changing (thanks Bob)!
 

JamesG161

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Feb 14, 2014
8,019
Hunter 430 Waveland, MS
a time when you could consult a band of strangers
Yeah you're right!
There just some MORE strange than others and THEY know who they are...

And that is the real STRANGE thing.

Jim...
 
Apr 19, 2012
1,043
O'Day Daysailor 17 Nevis MN
you are correct but there were computers that were as big a 18 wheeler or even bigger
I used such a computer in college. It was slow and not nearly as powerful of a computer as a smart phone. The only advantage it had was that 10 could use it at the same time.
 
Nov 6, 2006
10,212
Hunter 34 Mandeville Louisiana
I fiddled with such a computer while in the navy.. It was water cooled.. Had pumps and a cooling tower outside.. Amazing how small stuff like that has gotten.
 

JamesG161

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Feb 14, 2014
8,019
Hunter 430 Waveland, MS
I fiddled with such a computer while in the navy.
I didn't know you sailed with Admiral Halsey!:yikes:

The only advantage it had was that 10 could use it at the same time.
Computers today are the same as always, one task at a time. They were always and still are, Multi tasking.

The cooling tower, believe it or not, were to achieve maximum military computation speeds.
We have learned to consume less power at higher speeds and thus lower heat generated as our batteries drain.;)
@kloudie1 Todays Navy uses refrigeration on their computers, still.
Jim...
 
Jan 27, 2008
3,092
ODay 35 Beaufort, NC
I multiply by Pi all home and boat project "should take" and "should cost" estimates. Has given remarkably accurate results over the years.:biggrin:
Try using the number "e" instead. Pi is just a ratio of a circle's circumference to its' diameter. This is not really related to a cost of a project. "e" on the other hand defines growth rates and will much more accurately predict the growth of a projects' effort or cost. I think the two numbers being close is allowing you to get a good approximation but "e" will help you nail it exactly :>) http://betterexplained.com/articles/an-intuitive-guide-to-exponential-functions-e/
 
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Oct 26, 2008
6,432
Catalina 320 Barnegat, NJ
I finally got started installing my pressurized hot & cold water system on Saturday. I managed to install the water heater with just 4 screws into the quarter berth floor. Rain, a trip to the store, a few wrong fittings, and hurriedly packing up so that I didn't miss a dinner appointment conspired to keep me from getting any more done. My dockmates said I looked busy all day. I dejectedly told them I effectively accomplished the installation of just 4 bolts to secure my water heater. They said, "wow, great job"!
 

kito

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Sep 13, 2012
2,011
1979 Hunter Cherubini 30 Clemmons
I am into my 3rd year of my estimated 6 month renovation project. It has kicked my butt. I actually lost interest for over 6 months. Didn't touch the boat during that time and it's in my backyard!. Between that and forgetting what the heck I went in the garage for, it has taken longer than expected. Estimated launch date is now Fall of 2016........or Spring 2017 ;)
 
Jan 27, 2008
3,092
ODay 35 Beaufort, NC
Fall 2016 times "e" = May, 2019.
Sept. 21 times 2.71 = 2 years and 8 months (approximately) thus May, 2019
 
Sep 15, 2009
6,244
S2 9.2a Fairhope Al
I am into my 3rd year of my estimated 6 month renovation project. It has kicked my butt. I actually lost interest for over 6 months. Didn't touch the boat during that time and it's in my backyard!. Between that and forgetting what the heck I went in the garage for, it has taken longer than expected. Estimated launch date is now Fall of 2016........or Spring 2017 ;)
time is money and if you don't have the money to pay a team of workers to do the work and have to do it yourself it will take longer ...when i got my boat i thought a year or a year and a half ....7 years and one and a half months i floated it ....i even got concerned i might die before completion ...but hey here i am in the water thinking.... wish i had started this ten years before i did ...all i can say is work safe and hurry the hell up.....
 

pateco

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Aug 12, 2014
2,207
Hunter 31 (1983) Pompano Beach FL
Been working over six months to install my free Raymarine C-80 MFD chart plotter. Slowly making headway, but If I had the $ it could have been installed the week I got it. I still have to do all the wiring and find a cheap Raystar 125 GPS Receiver.
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druid

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Apr 22, 2009
837
Ontario 32 Pender Harbour
Try using the number "e" instead. Pi is just a ratio of a circle's circumference to its' diameter. This is not really related to a cost of a project. "e" on the other hand defines growth rates and will much more accurately predict the growth of a projects' effort or cost. I think the two numbers being close is allowing you to get a good approximation but "e" will help you nail it exactly :>) http://betterexplained.com/articles/an-intuitive-guide-to-exponential-functions-e/
... and the Award for Geek-post of the Week goes to... :)

druid
 

druid

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Apr 22, 2009
837
Ontario 32 Pender Harbour
I finally got started installing my pressurized hot & cold water system on Saturday. I managed to install the water heater with just 4 screws into the quarter berth floor. Rain, a trip to the store, a few wrong fittings, and hurriedly packing up so that I didn't miss a dinner appointment conspired to keep me from getting any more done. My dockmates said I looked busy all day. I dejectedly told them I effectively accomplished the installation of just 4 bolts to secure my water heater. They said, "wow, great job"!
I've been carrying my hot-water heater around in the boat for almost a year now. It will fit where I thought it would go, but it won't fit through the cockpit locker opening! I have to cut out a wider hole... let's see... jig-saw... need some blades... have to put in a shelf for the tank... need some plywood... some epoxy... oh hell, let's just have a beer instead!

druid
 
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pateco

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Aug 12, 2014
2,207
Hunter 31 (1983) Pompano Beach FL
I've been carrying my hot-water heater around in the boat for almost a year now. It will fit where I thought it would go, but it won't fit through the cockpit locker opening! I have to cut out a wider hole... let's see... jig-saw... need some blades... have to put in a shelf for the tank... need some plywood... some epoxy... oh hell, let's just have a beer instead!

druid
My HW heater has been disconnected and bypassed for a year now. Still haven't figure out how to remove it without dissembling the entire galley. LOL
 

SFS

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Aug 18, 2015
2,092
Currently Boatless Okinawa
Sawzall it into pieces and bring it up through the starboard cockpit lazarette?