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JBP-PA

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Apr 29, 2022
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Jeanneau Tonic 23 Erie, PA
My engine is a direct drive atomic 4. This version does not have a transmission in the normal sense.View attachment 237209
Allegedly some had 1:1, some had 2.04. If you went from 1:1 to 2.04, that would explain it.

"Some models have 2:1 paragon reducing gear. All are lubricated by the same engine oil. 2:1 reducing gear is easy to spot as its bell shaped round, it sits behind the square reversing gear housing(the one with a shifting lever)"
 
Jan 4, 2006
7,577
Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
No one has asked, did you get a new transmission with your new engine? Did the gear ratio change?
Well done @JBP-PA . That is the first offering here with a positive theory behind it. What else could have changed over the period of engine replacement while the boat was in the water ?

And this is NOT a fouled prop :

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No visible black smoke from the exhaust,
That one statement is what has always made me believe that fouling was NOT the problem here. One year and one year only, we all had a bad fouling problem in our marina over the winter. I was scheduled to move my boat over to the crane (annual half haul out) and almost got lynched by the marina mgr. for the amount black smoke I belched out in the 300 meter run over to the crane. He thought it was a boat fire and was about to call the fire dept. I could not get over 1200 RPM at WOT and was barely moving. When we were finally out of the water, the prop looked like a basketball it was so heavily covered. Smoke from a fouled prop is something you will not believe until you've sat in the middle of it.

@Night Watch , if you can't find any ID metal patches on the back end of the engine for ID, please unload the engine (if you have unloaders) and roll the in-gear engine over exactly once and note exactly how much the prop shaft rolls over. This is your gear ratio.

Right now, I'm betting all I have (which is pretty much squat at this time of year) that this is your answer.
 
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Jan 9, 2025
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Catalina 30' Tall Rig John Wayne Marina, Sequim, WA
Well done @JBP-PA . That is the first offering here with a positive theory behind it. What else could have changed over the period of engine replacement while the boat was in the water ?

And this is NOT a fouled prop :





That one statement is what has always made me believe that fouling was NOT the problem here. One year and one year only, we all had a bad fouling problem in our marina over the winter. I was scheduled to move my boat over to the crane (annual half haul out) and almost got lynched by the marina mgr. for the amount black smoke I belched out in the 300 meter run over to the crane. He thought it was a boat fire and was about to call the fire dept. I could not get over 1200 RPM at WOT and was barely moving. When we were finally out of the water, the prop looked like a basketball it was so heavily covered. Smoke from a fouled prop is something you will not believe until you've sat in the middle of it.

@Night Watch , if you can't find any ID metal patches on the back end of the engine for ID, please unload the engine (if you have unloaders) and roll the in-gear engine over exactly once and note exactly how much the prop shaft rolls over. This is your gear ratio.

Right now, I'm betting all I have (which is pretty much squat at this time of year) that this is your answer.
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This is a Paragon 2:1 reduction drive. This is substituted in the direct drive 1:1 engine at the output shaft.
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My engine doesn't have a Paragon drive.
An Atomic 4 with a Paragon reduction gear would not fit in a Catalina 30.
 
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