It would make a great video.I hope the OP doesn’t try and use that to fix his engine problems or soft decks.
Help me... I don't have time to search, and I have some questions !!!!
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@Leeward Rail ... you forgot something in your original plea... you should have replied to a thread that was at least 10 years old. Those are my favorite posters.
Those are good but what's even more interesting is the new poster that INSTANTLY disappears when you ask for a picture to further assist with his question. If I had a nickel for every one of those I've seen ......................Those are my favorite posters.
"Hey, I want answers but it's not like I'm willing to do any work on this."
It might be my age speaking but I suspect it is a generational thing.
A similar version would occasionally happen with apprentices at the shop.
They would want an answer without wanting to know" why", which obviously is the important thing when learning.
It really is hard when you get threads like the one I replied to today.
Scant details. . No photo... Question that requires psychic powers, and a rude response after I gave them an accurate rational solution.
The funny thing is, I was musing about something along the lines of a "Mr Bean Buys a Boat" series after I posted it.
Yah it's much better for them to create a new thread and have someone tell them to Search.....Uhhh....@Leeward Rail ... you forgot something in your original plea... you should have replied to a thread that was at least 10 years old. Those are my favorite posters.
1) Search the Internet and this forum to see if the your question has already been solved previouslyYah it's much better for them to create a new thread and have someone tell them to Search.....Uhhh....
2)Gather all pertinent details including photos.
3) start new thread for any additional questions not resolved by previous research.
An Internet tradition since.. Well.. Bulletin Boards and Forums were invented.
It's just like the guy with the inverter question the other day. People kept telling him wrong answers and no one bothered to tech him how to go about sizing the wiring and fuses correctly. Some of the "answers" were downright wrong. One guy said his wire size was OK without even asking how long the wires were!!!
Give 'em a fish or teach him how to fish. If you choose the first, it starts to smell fishy...
I’ve noticed a lot of factually wrong as well as logically incoherent postings to on-line forums. SBO, regrettably, included occasionally. But that’s more than compensated for in here by the abundance of solid information and good discussions.It's just like the guy with the inverter question the other day. People kept telling him wrong answers and no one bothered to tech him how to go about sizing the wiring and fuses correctly. Some of the "answers" were downright wrong. One guy said his wire size was OK without even asking how long the wires were!!!
Give 'em a fish or teach him how to fish. If you choose the first, it starts to smell fishy...
True, but what responsibility do you think we have to point out blatantly false information that could actually harm the original poster?I’ve noticed a lot of factually wrong as well as logically incoherent postings to on-line forums. SBO, regrettably, included occasionally. But that’s more than compensated for in here by the abundance of solid information and good discussions.
I do see members weighing in to correct inaccurate or false information. I do think it should be “called out”, but I can’t say I feel it’s our collective duty or responsibility to do so. Anymore than “community service” is a formal duty. Ultimately, a request for information that might lead to a critical dependence on it obligates the requestor to evaluate the information received, typically by consulting/comparing with alternative sources.
How do we find a balance between those two? (Serious question, not sarcastic.) I don’t think it’s fair that every time someone asks a question we tell them “come back after you’ve read the unabridged works of Calder, Casey, Toss, Maine Sail, and (God help them) Bethwaite.” There’s absolutely a place for references, but I think there’s value in the forum for providing context for the specific parts of those references that apply, and answering questions in a way that complements the material.Give 'em a fish or teach him how to fish. If you choose the first, it starts to smell fishy...
I think the forum generally does a good job of self correcting bad information. I can’t think of too many threads that don’t end in a consensus on the right / safe answer, even if there’s some meandering along the way. If anything I think that process means more than just the OP can learn from the original question. I’ve been thinking lately that the threading and quoting style of SBO lends itself to better correction of bad guidance than, for example, FB groups, where all the answers to a question are just thrown into a hodgepodge of responses.
That might be a function of being "united" by shared interest, subjects where hands-on experience is a common element of most responses. Rather than, perhaps, responding to whatever comes up from wherever it might come, etc. More opinion than actual synthesized knowledge.
...... but bethwaite such an easy read and has lots of pictures. i like picture.
it's easier to play the game if you have read the rules
sailing is like chess. a simple read of the boy scout chess merit badge book will take you light years ahead of just watching others and playing the game without any understanding. little tips don't help much.
sailing ain't checkers.
bethwaite is for beginners, and experts too, such an easy read
you don't learn how to race from the guy who never wins
you can't trim a sail without knowing what lines to pull/ease
practice practice practice ............
but practicing it wrong don't help much
jon
it's easier to play the game if you have read the rules
sailing is like chess. a simple read of the boy scout chess merit badge book will take you light years ahead of just watching others and playing the game without any understanding. little tips don't help much.
sailing ain't checkers.
bethwaite is for beginners, and experts too, such an easy read
you don't learn how to race from the guy who never wins
you can't trim a sail without knowing what lines to pull/ease
practice practice practice ............
but practicing it wrong don't help much
jon
Don’t get me wrong, I think Bethwaite is awesome. But we may have different perspectives on what an easy read is!...... but bethwaite such an easy read and has lots of pictures. i like picture.
it's easier to play the game if you have read the rules
sailing is like chess. a simple read of the boy scout chess merit badge book will take you light years ahead of just watching others and playing the game without any understanding. little tips don't help much.
sailing ain't checkers.
bethwaite is for beginners, and experts too, such an easy read
you don't learn how to race from the guy who never wins
you can't trim a sail without knowing what lines to pull/ease
practice practice practice ............
but practicing it wrong don't help much
jon
Been my experience the tradition is by post 3 the discussion has left the subject topic making a resource for future searches very unhelpful.
Personally on the few threads that do stay on topic, if someone finds new or confirming information I like that it be added to the same thread. (not a totally different question which we all see sometimes) Some threads I started have 100's of posts and many contributors over years (totally different forum and topic). It's great to just point people to the one thread where all the info is collected. If each new nugget found was in a new thread.....good luck finding it all.