Diesel tank cleaning advise needed

Feb 18, 2022
440
Catalina 36 Port Orchard
Hey guys! Ok got my tank drained and as I expected the 15 year old fuel was growing a science project.

This is my cork float, coated with the same stuff coating the inside of my tank.
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Im fairly new to diesel in this regard, I can do basic maintenance and some basic troubleshooting on them. I am really good with gasoline engines, so all and all things like this are not totally foreign to me. But… I have never dealt with a bacteria lined tank. Is there a method I can use to clean the tank in situ or will I need to pull it. I would rather not remove it if I can avoid it. Oh and my access portal into the tank is a 1.5” hole (the diameter of the cork float above) and that’s it.
 
Feb 10, 2004
4,099
Hunter 40.5 Warwick, RI
I have pulled and replaced my level sensor a couple of times and I have never seen anything that remotely looks like this.

I'm curious- do you add a biocide to your fuel every time you fill up?

As for cleaning, I think I would use a garden sprayer to hose the inside of the tank with a de-greaser solution followed by a moderate pressure rinse with hot water using a pressure washer. Drain and inspect. Repeat as necessary. After all is spotless, I would do another rinse with diesel using the garden sprayer. Suck out until dry. This stuff is probably inside your pickup and return tubes, so I would pull them and clean. You should probably also inspect all of the fuel lines up to the filter and replace if necessary.

This looks like the kind of stuff that can cause an abrupt halt to a running diesel, usually at the most inopportune time.
 
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Feb 18, 2022
440
Catalina 36 Port Orchard
I have pulled and replaced my level sensor a couple of times and I have never seen anything that remotely looks like this.

I'm curious- do you add a biocide to your fuel every time you fill up?

This looks like the kind of stuff that can cause an abrupt halt to a running diesel, usually at the most inopportune time.
I have never filled up this boat. I bought it a couple months ago from the marina it sits in now. She was abandoned about 15 years ago when the owner passed away. I am working on a refit and serious cleaning at the moment. If you are curious look in the Catalina 30 forum for my post on Luna A Forgotten Catalina 30.

And yes, this goo inside the tank will quickly ruin a day on the water.

I will keep the hose and detergent idea in the back of my head. I only have access to cold water where I’m at.
 

SFS

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Aug 18, 2015
2,085
Currently Boatless Okinawa
I agree with what Rich said, and if the boat is near your house, and you have that gear, coupled with good access to both ends of all applicable hoses, it's the way to go. If not all of that is true for you, here is another way, which I have used prepping for deliveries. (BTW, if the tank is empty, this would be the time to consider installing a larger access plate.)

1) Empty the tank (which you have done), and polish that fuel, if you have the capability. If not, consider paying someone to do it. If that doesn't make financial sense due to a relatively small quantity, donate it to a farmer running diesel equipment.
2) Devise some sort of tool - a rod, coat hanger, etc. to which you can attach cheap disposable paper shop rags (see #3 below). The method of attachment doesn't matter, but changing of rags should be easy and quick. Two or more tools is helpful, and they should be semi-bendable, to allow you to reach all of the sections of the tank. The length of the tool depends on the dimensions of the tank.
3) Buy a couple of boxes of paper shop rags at the auto store or similar. They come 100 or so per box, and are disposable. How many you need depends on the size of the tank, but buy more than you think you need. They don't go bad, and can be used for other things on a boat or in a shop.
4) Use the rags, attached to the ends of the rod, to progressively wipe the gunk out of the tank. Start on the tank's "ceiling", then the sides, so the crap dropping off doesn't need to be cleaned up again. Wear gloves, and just put the used rags into a garbage bag. (This goes faster if you have a helper attaching the next rag to an unused tool, so you can just wipe, wipe, wipe.)
5) When you have it visually clean, you can spray the inside (with a flexible hose and dollar-store plant mister, or similar) with isopropyl alcohol (rubbing alcohol). Absent a sprayer, go back to the rags and douse a rag with the alcohol and wipe again. You can skip this step if you want, as the gunk is usually some combination of bacteria and algae. Alcohol will help with the former, but not so much with the latter. I use isopropyl because it is readily available and it evaporates quickly - you won't have to mop it out or drain it from the tank.
6) Use a biocide in your diesel from here on out. Opinions on biocide are as varied and conflicting as those on anchors, so do your own research. Follow the manufacturer's instructions on amount and frequency of use.
7) Change you fuel filters, regardless of whether you clean out your lines. You should clean out your lines if you can, but if you don't, good (clean) filters should keep the crud out of your injectors.

I have done this on 12 to 18 gallon tanks. It's a pain, but when you fly into the boat's location and can't bring everything you have at home, it works. I have also done in on tanks that were 60 + gallons, but in those cases the access ports were big enough to get my arm into, and I could reach the bottom of the tank while lying down on the cabin sole. It's up to you to decide which method is faster or easier. Tools, tank access, tank shape, and fuel line locations all factor in to your decision.
 
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Feb 18, 2022
440
Catalina 36 Port Orchard
Boat isn’t far from my house, about a half hour drive.

A clean out/inspection port is something I have been considering making. I can’t see much or get much inside the 1.5” hole I currently have. I will need to see what I can find/make for a lid and gasket.
 
Jan 11, 2014
12,761
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
Adding an inspection port is good idea. Do a search there are several companies that can provide them. See link below for one from Vetus.

There is no algae inside your tank. Algae is a plant and it needs oxygen and light to grow and prosper. What you have is a combination of dead bacteria and alive bacteria colonies and asphaltines from the diesel itself.

Once the tank is clean inspect it carefully for evidence of pitting and corrosion on the inside. One of the byproducts of the bacteria colonies is sulfuric acid which will react with aluminum in the tank causing pitting and eventually leaks. The bacteria live in the interface between water and diesel and consume the diesel as food.

Biobar JF is generally recognized as one of the best biocides for diesel fuel. Add it with every fill it.

Keep the inside of the tank dry. One source of water is condensation, a full tank will reduce condensation. Another often overlooked source is the diesel fill cap. There is an O-ring that needs to be periodically replaced.

At 15 years old, the fuel lines should be replaced. The hose do become dry and brittle which can lead to fuel leaks

Isopropanol alcohol is often diluted with water. If you use it, make sure you buy the kind with a low percentage of water and make sure the tank is very dry before refilling.

Good luck!


Edit: Added "and light" to the sentence about algae.
 
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Jan 19, 2010
1,275
Catalina 34 Casco Bay
Sometimes it's easier and lest costly to replace... For the time and cost to clean that tank ( as wells it can be cleaned) buying a new tank appears the better way to go.. While there, replace ALL of the hoses.. since the contamination may have spread in the hoses, replace ALL.. There are polishing systems that can be added.. Good idea if you plan to take the boat to places where fuel quality is in doubt.. But if you are only going to be staying in areas where the fuel if good, than just go with a biocide that adds lubricity ..
 

RitSim

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Jan 29, 2018
455
Beneteau 411 Branford
We had a C30. I also opened the fuel tank and considered how to clean the tank. I decided that the fuel gage access wasn't big enough. I added an inspection port using a 4" hole saw and a 5"-5.5" top plate with diesel resistant gasket material. If you go that way, the hole saw generally cuts a little bigger. The top plate was 1/8" aluminum from McMaster Carr. I carefully laid out the holes and used a transfer punch to get the exact hole location on the tank. Then threaded the holes followed by complete chip cleanout. Never had a leak.
 
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Feb 18, 2022
440
Catalina 36 Port Orchard
We had a C30. I also opened the fuel tank and considered how to clean the tank. I decided that the fuel gage access wasn't big enough. I added an inspection port using a 4" hole saw and a 5"-5.5" top plate with diesel resistant gasket material. If you go that way, the hole saw generally cuts a little bigger. The top plate was 1/8" aluminum from McMaster Carr. I carefully laid out the holes and used a transfer punch to get the exact hole location on the tank. Then threaded the holes followed by complete chip cleanout. Never had a leak.
Do you by chance have the part numbers for what you purchased so I can see what you got?
 
Mar 26, 2011
3,680
Corsair F-24 MK I Deale, MD
That is biological fouling. Your diesel is infected. You will need to clean the tank and the lines, followed by shock-level dosing with a biocide like Biobor JF. Then treat from now on, and if you don't have a water-separating filter, get one.
 

RitSim

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Jan 29, 2018
455
Beneteau 411 Branford
Used #10-24 machine screws (tap drill #25 [5/32"], 5/32" transfer punch (3374A16). Screws can be any style- hex head, flat phillips head. Drilled cap holes as 5/32" then transferred positions to tank. Tapped tank and opened cover plate hole for screw clearances. Alum cap was cut from info shown below. Bought gasket material at local auto parts store.
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Jan 1, 2006
7,487
Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
I once took a fuel tank to a radiator shop to be cleaned. It was pretty easy to get out.
 

senang

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Oct 21, 2009
316
hunter 38 Monaco
+1 For what Ritsim above posted. Cut a hole, thoroughly clean the insides, replace hoses. Cutting a hole and closing with a cover sounds scary but is reasobly simple to carry out. Cork is a good gasket material. Good luck, do it slowly do it secure and have a spotless fuel system. I did it.
 
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JRacer

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Aug 9, 2011
1,362
Beneteau 310 Cheney KS (Wichita)
Adding an inspection port is good idea. Do a search there are several companies that can provide them. See link below for one from Vetus.

There is no algae inside your tank. Algae is a plant and it needs oxygen and light to grow and prosper. What you have is a combination of dead bacteria and alive bacteria colonies and asphaltines from the diesel itself.

Once the tank is clean inspect it carefully for evidence of pitting and corrosion on the inside. One of the byproducts of the bacteria colonies is sulfuric acid which will react with aluminum in the tank causing pitting and eventually leaks. The bacteria live in the interface between water and diesel and consume the diesel as food.

Biobar JF is generally recognized as one of the best biocides for diesel fuel. Add it with every fill it.

Keep the inside of the tank dry. One source of water is condensation, a full tank will reduce condensation. Another often overlooked source is the diesel fill cap. There is an O-ring that needs to be periodically replaced.

At 15 years old, the fuel lines should be replaced. The hose do become dry and brittle which can lead to fuel leaks

Isopropanol alcohol is often diluted with water. If you use it, make sure you buy the kind with a low percentage of water and make sure the tank is very dry before refilling.

Good luck!


Edit: Added "and light" to the sentence about algae.
Any clues on a US supplier of the ILT120B port? Vetus site directed me to wholesaler who won't sell to end users.
 
Jan 4, 2006
7,195
Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
As for cleaning, I think I would use a garden sprayer to hose the inside of the tank with a de-greaser solution followed by a moderate pressure rinse with hot water using a pressure washer.
I have never used a pump garden sprayer to clean a fuel tank but use mine regularly on the garden. If held within an inch or so of a surface, it puts out a real blast when pumped up.

It will set you back about $30-40 but it should do a good job. Not much good for anything else after the de-greaser but far cheaper than a tank cleaning service. Follow the rest of the suggestions as well qand you should be good for may years. My tank is 24 years old and the interior is pristine from using Biobor JF biocide.
 
Aug 2, 2005
1,155
Pearson 33-2 & Typhoon 18 Seneca Lake
Hello mikeracca, Two ideas come to mind related to the suggestions already posted.

(1) About 10 years ago we had a sludge condition in the tank of our Oday 272 LE. A person offered to polish the fuel in the tank with a filter system that appeared to be home-built. I was suspicious of the contraption and the process because of my own belief that polishing was only smoke and mirrors or some maritime myth. The process was simple, used the fuel already in the tank, and worked! A small pump was used to circulate the fuel out of the tank, through the filter, and back into the tank. That created a flow of sufficient power to rinse out the interior of the tank, including the corners. The filter media was changed three or four times with each filter becoming less gunky. We used the openings already in the tank. Since you have the sight gauge removed, just remove the pick up tube and the shut off valve to supply the second opening. That will allow you to clean the pick up tube and the screen filter that might be in the lower end of the tube. As I remember, the cost was $100 to $150. Well worth the cost and effort.

(2) On a boat 7 years ago we changed the original, leaking fuel tank for a new one. The process involved purchasing and installing a new fuel tank. First, removing the old tank required disconnecting many tubes to move the tank out of the side location and out over the engine. Second, finding and installing a new fuel tank involved finding a manufacturer and supplying the dimensions. The manufacturer was RDS Manufacturing, Inc, 300 Industrial Park Drive, PO Box 1908, Perry, FL 32348. I believe the cost for the tank at that time was $1000 including shipping. The tank replacement was a serious DIY project, but well worth the effort. Considering the time your boat, tank, and fuel were unattended, the tank replacement might make sense.

Best wishes on your project.
 
Feb 18, 2022
440
Catalina 36 Port Orchard
I have been tossing around the tank polishing idea myself. I was reading up on the process from a semi restoration forum and they said the same thing. Use the fuel to pump through a filter then right back into the tank and just keep the cycle going for a while. I have a pre filter that I plan to replace, and several elements for it were left on the boat. I would be easily able to set that up on a loop to see if I can scrub my tank with itself. Right now it will only cost me some time, and the way I look at it, any time spent on the boat is time well spent!
 
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