We have an oil crisis. There is no where to store all the oil that is being produced. There are dozens of tankers laying in harbors full of oil and gas with no where to go. At one point earlier this year the price of oil was negative, people who owned oil were willing to pay to get rid of it.For that and another reason we need an oil crisis. During the last one marinas became a lot more friendly to sailors.
In the sailboat crazy 70s and 80s, Lake Minnetonka had 3 sailboat-only Yacht Clubs (WYC, MYC, and Shorewood YC) as well as a sailboat only marina (Sailors World). Now SW is the home to a boat club, and Shorewood is a 50/50 mix. Happily both WYC and MYC will never ever change.For that and another reason we need an oil crisis. During the last one marinas became a lot more friendly to sailors.
Indeed. Divide by 7/12ths. Powerboaters by 3/12sHow long is the sailing season there?
$$$/day must be pretty impressive.
What kind of boat, and does he like to race??? I might be able to help.One of our members has to move to Minneapolis for his job soon. I'll bet he forgot to ask for his "slip adjustment" in the salary process.
I will find out. I only heard about it Saturday while he was preparing his boat for haul out. I think he is a new sailor, but he may want to learn to race.What kind of boat, and does he like to race??? I might be able to help.
Cool. No need to scare him off; of the 7 sailable lakes in the Metro area, Minnetonka is the most expensive BY FAR, due to size and amenities. But I spent several wonderful years with my First 235 on a buoy on Lake Harriet, and that was $500 for the season.I will find out. I only heard about it Saturday while he was preparing his boat for haul out. I think he is a new sailor, but he may want to learn to race.
+1I have a free slip but I did need to buy the house in front of it.
Just for my interest I used your boat length 36’ to calc costs at a marina here in Kingston Ont just across Lake Ontario from you.Sailing in my neck of the woods has spoiled me, the season is short, but no tides and lots of deep open water. Even more so the cost of sailing is very low. Seasonal dockage at fixed dock with power and water a little over $2K, Haulout, winter storage, mast up and down, about $1.3K. Insurance $850, total about $4K to be on the water. This for a 36 ft boat.
On the other hand, the nearest West Marine is about 75 miles away and there is a dearth of skilled labor.
Interesting.Just for my interest I used your boat length 36’ to calc costs at a marina here in Kingston Ont just across Lake Ontario from you.
I used your insurance costs and converted CDN a to USA $ at .75 and you would pay about 1K more here.
Hmmm must be caused by the better here!
Lucky... that's a sweet deal. Supply and demand is always at the heard of these things.Holy cow! My costs at a now undisclosed location are: $1185/season for a 30 foot floating dock with power and water. Winter haul out is $3.00/foot plus $.35/foot for pressure wash. Mast unstep is $50. Off site indoor heated winter storage $975 for mid October to mid May. My club dues are $300/yr for being a senior member. Freshwater sailing on a large bay and 2-3 hour sail to offshore inhabited islands. Restaurants and a West Marine within walking distance. Oh, and another bonus. No powerboats other than the 3 race committee boats. We also have iceboating in the winter.
Indeed, the City of Mound has one of the better municipal buoy/dock/slip programs on the lake! .I pay $325 per season for a buoy on Lake Minnetonka through the City of Mound. A dock costs the same.
I would say prime time has passed, but there will always be sailors. And you never know.. One of the next generations may be moved back towards sailing due to the ecological aspects and wanting to be closer to nature.. i used to power boat, and i never realized the difference in how connected you feel to the sea/air when sailing..We sailors are, I fear, a dying breed. Our time has passed.