Well, definitely find out what brand you've got. Maybe take a couple decent photos of the drum and post them here, but your description might bring someone out of the woodwork who knows this unit.
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I made my Siren fly!
Kind of anyway.
I just need to Photoshop the lift and straps out of the pictures.
I painted the keel, inside the trunk and replaced the lifting cable too.
When I took the cable off the keel I found the nut to be loose! So I used some red locktite on it when I put it back together.
It's back on the trailer now awaiting me to raise the mast. Tomorrow.
Kind of anyway.
I just need to Photoshop the lift and straps out of the pictures.
I painted the keel, inside the trunk and replaced the lifting cable too.
When I took the cable off the keel I found the nut to be loose! So I used some red locktite on it when I put it back together.
It's back on the trailer now awaiting me to raise the mast. Tomorrow.
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Here it is. This is my first time uploading pictures here so I hope it work. The brand name is Harken. One picture shows the top swivel with the halyard. Two show the spool, one with the brand sticker. One shows the cleat where the halyard ties down. You can also see the forestay piece that shows untwisting. That section will be replaced with my new Johnson tensioner and a piece of stainless steel plate once the tensioner arrives.
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Success!
Harken is top of the line but that must be an old one. Kudos to whoever got that fairlead mounted aft of the drum!
Have you read Harken's manual?
http://www.harken.com/uploadedfiles/Product_Support/PDF/4350.pdf
It does not show the halyard being led back down the headstay, but down the mast, supposedly to a cleat or to a turning block to the cockpit.
http://www.harken.com/uploadedfiles/Product_Support/PDF/4350.pdf
It does not show the halyard being led back down the headstay, but down the mast, supposedly to a cleat or to a turning block to the cockpit.
As a matter of fact, I was just reading their site this morning after I looked up the manufacturer. Apparently the "hoistable furling swivel", which would be required to lead the halyard to the mast and/or back to the cockpit, is optional. I'm guessing that the setup that I have was an option used when my boat was built in 1987. My Hobie Cat had a similar system.
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I have one of those here which the sail is too big for my boat. The downside I think to this set up is that it cannot be used in any other position than full open. In otherwords, you can't reef it.
A key component is that upper bearing and making sure it turns as it should when you have full tension on your halyard.
A key component is that upper bearing and making sure it turns as it should when you have full tension on your halyard.
I took a picture of my cockpit and motor well drains working.
And I found my 20oz Stewart framing hammer! One of my guys left it on my roof after we re-shingled it... 2 years ago!
It is in need of some polishing.
(I was on the roof today because we are supposed to get a lot of rain in the next 24 hours. I thought I'd better check the eves trough down spouts. They were almost plugged.)
You can see in one of the pictures that the pool next door still isn't done! Next month is the one year anniversary of them starting it...
And I found my 20oz Stewart framing hammer! One of my guys left it on my roof after we re-shingled it... 2 years ago!
It is in need of some polishing.
(I was on the roof today because we are supposed to get a lot of rain in the next 24 hours. I thought I'd better check the eves trough down spouts. They were almost plugged.)
You can see in one of the pictures that the pool next door still isn't done! Next month is the one year anniversary of them starting it...
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After a bit of research I determined that the main issue I was having with my roller reefing genoa is that the Harken furler is intended for rurling only, not for reefing.
Put in a bid on a storm jib today. Sure could have used it two weeks ago.
Put in a bid on a storm jib today. Sure could have used it two weeks ago.
I thought furling was reefing on a furled headsail. I don't think any furlers allow for partially lowering a sail. Maybe they exist.
Beautiful pictures Walt. Thanks for sharing.
Justin, many of the roller furling systems allow a headsail to be partially furled for reefing. Granted the sail shape isn't optimal but it does work to some extent. Apperantly some furlers, such as the Harken Small Boat Furlers, are intended for "all or nothing" and don't work well for reefing.
Justin, many of the roller furling systems allow a headsail to be partially furled for reefing. Granted the sail shape isn't optimal but it does work to some extent. Apperantly some furlers, such as the Harken Small Boat Furlers, are intended for "all or nothing" and don't work well for reefing.
On small boats, I believe those are called wire luft furlers and I use this type of furler on my 15 foot dingy. When I raise the mast on this boat, I pin the fore stay - but the actual tension on the jib is from a wire cable in the leading edge of the jib. The forestay is now pretty much not used (no hank on clips)- except that it is a backup if the wire luft in the jib were to bust.
I don’t have a furler on my 26S.. too much hassle if you raise and lower the mast much (its not the actual raising of the jib furler that is the main hassle - its all the additional stuff you have to do such as wrapping the fulrer on the mast so that you don’t damage it). However, on this small boat it makes the setup a lot easier. The wire luft furler is not at all fragile when the sail is down and I just leave it attached to the boat at the bottom and let it fall into the boat when I lower it. Setup - raise the mast and pin the fore stay, connect the halyard to the top of the jib, raise the jib and set the tension with the halyard. Very fast - less than one minute (it takes me less than 10 minutes to set the whole boat up).
I didn’t care about the ability to "reef" the jib (i.e., partially furl) but what I found is that not being able to reef also meant not being able to furl in high winds - exactly the time when I need it the most.
The boat this on is experimental - (translation I can try any funky or goofy thing I want) so I put sections of PVC pipe run through a table saw to put a lengthwise slot in the PVC over the jib leading edge. There are three sections of PVC pipe that provide "joints" to lower the stress when the sail is raised or lowered. The third picture below shows how far up the jib the PVC sections go (see the arrow). Adding the PVC leading edge now makes the wire luft jib way easier to roll up in high winds. I was somewhat surprised to find that this also allows the jib to be reefed although I really never use this.
I can’t remember the wire luft furler I bought and it works fine.. but I wish I would have spent the extra money and bought the Harken small boat furler just because of the larger drum.
I don’t have a furler on my 26S.. too much hassle if you raise and lower the mast much (its not the actual raising of the jib furler that is the main hassle - its all the additional stuff you have to do such as wrapping the fulrer on the mast so that you don’t damage it). However, on this small boat it makes the setup a lot easier. The wire luft furler is not at all fragile when the sail is down and I just leave it attached to the boat at the bottom and let it fall into the boat when I lower it. Setup - raise the mast and pin the fore stay, connect the halyard to the top of the jib, raise the jib and set the tension with the halyard. Very fast - less than one minute (it takes me less than 10 minutes to set the whole boat up).
I didn’t care about the ability to "reef" the jib (i.e., partially furl) but what I found is that not being able to reef also meant not being able to furl in high winds - exactly the time when I need it the most.
The boat this on is experimental - (translation I can try any funky or goofy thing I want) so I put sections of PVC pipe run through a table saw to put a lengthwise slot in the PVC over the jib leading edge. There are three sections of PVC pipe that provide "joints" to lower the stress when the sail is raised or lowered. The third picture below shows how far up the jib the PVC sections go (see the arrow). Adding the PVC leading edge now makes the wire luft jib way easier to roll up in high winds. I was somewhat surprised to find that this also allows the jib to be reefed although I really never use this.
I can’t remember the wire luft furler I bought and it works fine.. but I wish I would have spent the extra money and bought the Harken small boat furler just because of the larger drum.
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I have one of those. My problem is the sail is simply to large. I would almost need blocks midway back the cockpit. The bearing at the top needs to be replaced and is crucial.
Getting the cable tight is a challenge but I suppose I could use my winch to get it tight. I don't trailer as much so a proper furler would be nice. I do like to solo and deploying a hank on is a challenge. Maybe I could have it cut down and get a new upper bearing. A proper furler is just not in my budget any time soon.
I hank it, connect the halyard and tighten the sheets and put a tie on. At some point I have to go forward to pull the tie, I can usually do this through the hatch or by walking forward (depending on seas and wind).
My dream set up would be a bag on the main, and a proper furler for the jib.
Getting the cable tight is a challenge but I suppose I could use my winch to get it tight. I don't trailer as much so a proper furler would be nice. I do like to solo and deploying a hank on is a challenge. Maybe I could have it cut down and get a new upper bearing. A proper furler is just not in my budget any time soon.
I hank it, connect the halyard and tighten the sheets and put a tie on. At some point I have to go forward to pull the tie, I can usually do this through the hatch or by walking forward (depending on seas and wind).
My dream set up would be a bag on the main, and a proper furler for the jib.
Ive used my small boat wire luft furler a lot (almost once per week 6 to 7 months of the year) and it works fairly well. Recently I watched the top bearing when I rolled up the sail - it actually wasnt doing anything. All the rotation was happening in the wire halyard.. This was another reason I was thinking about the Harken small boat version..
I single hand with the hank on on the 26S - you just need a good down haul to drop it. When I decided I liked the hank on better because of the setup hassle, I was doing a lot of day sailing (set up, sail, take down all in one day). Ive been using the boat different now where I still trailer but the boat stays in the water for at least a few days. A good semi rigid larger boat furler becomes more attractive.. they sure are handy out on the water.
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V-storage etc
I finally finished my V-storage area this morning. I installed the plastic drawers (Walmart $17.oo) over the winter. If I had known that the wife would want to remove the head door and install a curtain I would have moved the food storage drawers forward so that the curtain would cover it. Not anxious to move it now so the curtain goes around it.
My wife made the new cushion covers.
I added the rail to the shelf behind the head last fall sometime but thought I'd put the picture up anyhow.
I finally finished my V-storage area this morning. I installed the plastic drawers (Walmart $17.oo) over the winter. If I had known that the wife would want to remove the head door and install a curtain I would have moved the food storage drawers forward so that the curtain would cover it. Not anxious to move it now so the curtain goes around it.
My wife made the new cushion covers.
I added the rail to the shelf behind the head last fall sometime but thought I'd put the picture up anyhow.
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I didn't do anything but sail the Siren 17 today.
Yesterday I picked up a new motor mount form a guy at the club.
I'm going to replace the one I made before the OB motor is at the bottom of the lake.
We have the club championship this weekend and I want the boat in top shape. Lol!
It's the slowest model boat on the lake. So I'm going to make some phone calls to other Siren 17 owners in the club and try to get them out to race. If there are 3 boats the same they get there own class! Then maybe I'll have a chance at better than last.
Yesterday I picked up a new motor mount form a guy at the club.
I'm going to replace the one I made before the OB motor is at the bottom of the lake.
We have the club championship this weekend and I want the boat in top shape. Lol!
It's the slowest model boat on the lake. So I'm going to make some phone calls to other Siren 17 owners in the club and try to get them out to race. If there are 3 boats the same they get there own class! Then maybe I'll have a chance at better than last.
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Wow thats a lot of storage. You must be planning on some long trips. Nice job. I like your wife's cushions. Very homey.
Thank you chp. I'll pass that on to my lady. You can never have too much storage when the wife is packing. 
When the closest water is 3 hours each way day sailing is out of the question. Most of our trips are for 4 or 5 days a time but once or twice a year we like to go for a week or more.
Nice pictues 41. Looks like the girls are having fun. Good luck with the race.
When the closest water is 3 hours each way day sailing is out of the question. Most of our trips are for 4 or 5 days a time but once or twice a year we like to go for a week or more.Nice pictues 41. Looks like the girls are having fun. Good luck with the race.
I beached my Siren! Yep. Drove it right up on a gravely beach across the lake from the yacht club. My wife was amazed! We hoped off onto the shore and did some beach combing. The wind had quit once we got out in the lake...
That shore is easily accessed by boat or a 4-5km walk. So It doesn't get many visitors.
After that I pulled the boat out and took it home for motor mount and window installation. I don't like the idea of dropping tools in the lake...
On the way home we stopped for ice cream cones. I park ware I want.
I'm going to try to figure out how to install bunks on the trailer too. I really don't like the rollers it has now. I'm going to try to work with the roller holders that are welded in place. Wish me luck.
That shore is easily accessed by boat or a 4-5km walk. So It doesn't get many visitors.
After that I pulled the boat out and took it home for motor mount and window installation. I don't like the idea of dropping tools in the lake...
On the way home we stopped for ice cream cones. I park ware I want.
I'm going to try to figure out how to install bunks on the trailer too. I really don't like the rollers it has now. I'm going to try to work with the roller holders that are welded in place. Wish me luck.
