what boat should i buy?

[Nice N Easy]

Just for the hell of it

Kevin,
Just for the hell of it I checked the Catalina 27's for sale on the classifieds here. With the exception of one 2003 model, there is not one listed for over 16,000. That is half of FOB's asking price.

 

[sailorKevan]

Nice N Easy

wow-makes ya wonder,,,,,,,,doesnt it?

 

[sailorKevan]

hey all you guys that responded

anyone available at bronte or oakville on the weekend-if you live here obviously-its just that-if you guys are spending alot of time at you boat and marina-its safe to say you know WhO has WhAt for sale-you might also know whats a real bargain and whats an not so good[so if anyone livinaboard at either-and can maybe give me a pointer or have some info on a goob boat or know of a good boat that i could check out thats up for sale would be well really good umm-thank you

 

[sailorKevan]

NiceN Easy

so whats the big deal then-why are they so much cheaper? are they used more-like worn out, thos guys are these ones here not used as much and hence: there in better condition-or are they both relatively the same-if so what justifies the huge price difference-the one you have access too are half price-well id like to spend 15-20k and get something worth 25-35-so can i do that-do you think there is a way better deal out there-we both know there are better deals but way better...

 

[LANCE ON CLOUD NINE]

Kevan- Buy a boat that has been loved and pampered.

The more you walk the docks and look at lots of boats the faster you will become your own expert. The cream puffs will start to become obvious. Take time to find the very, very, very best boat for your buck and it will save lots of time and money and hassle. An extra couple weeks doing hard shopping could save months of labor later. Have fun!

 

[Steve Dion]

Weekend Condo or occasional sail

Kevan:

I think you need to look for the boats sailing ability, features & budget before you worry about the brand. If you go to a Santa Cruz site, they are all going to recommend a SC.

If you plan on day sailing and returning home you will want something different than if you are going to anchor for an extended period you are going to want something different.

Things that may be important: Diesel or gas, inboard or outboard engine, adequate headroom (it is a SOB to get you pants on when you are bending over, good storage, refrigeration or icebox, easy handling (single hand if you need to), wheel or tiller steering, rig height if you need to clear any fixed bridges, keel depth, ventilation, ability to shower aboard, project boat or ready to sail (project boats never get done).

Make your short list and establish a budget then start looking for the right boat for YOU!

 

[Ross]

This is just a fraction of the boat brands that have been

produced.
Alberg
Allied
Allmand
AMF
Aquarius
Atomic 4
Balboa
Bavaria
Bayfield
Beta Marine Engines
Bristol
Buccaneer
C and C
Cabo Rico
Cal
Caliber
Cape Dory
Capri
Centurion
Cheoy Lee
Cherubini
Chrysler
Columbia
Compac
Contessa
Contest
Coronado
CSY
CT
Dufour
Endeavour
Ericson
Escape
Finot
Freedom
Galaxy
Gozzard
Grampian
Gulfstar
Hallberg-Rassy
Hans Christian
Hanse
Hinckley
Holder
Hudson
Hughes
Hylas
Impulse
Irwin
Island Packet
Island Trader
Islander
J-Boat
Jeanneau
JY
Kittiwake
Lagoon
Laguna
Lancer
Laser
Luger
Mason
Mirage
Moody
Morgan
New Horizon
Newport
Niagara
Nimble
Nonsuch
Norseman
Paceship
Pacific Northwest
Pacific Seacraft
Passport
Pearson
Precision
Prout
Quickstep
Ranger
Reliance
Rhodes
S2
Sabre
Saga
San Juan
Sandpiper 565
Santana
Schock
Schwill
Seaward
Seidelmann
Shannon
South Coast
Southern Cross
Sovereign
Starwind
Sunfish
Sweden
Tanzer
Tartan
Taswell
Tayana
Thunderbird
US Yacht
Vagabond
Valiant
Vancouver
Viking
Watkins
Wauquiez
West Wight Potter
Westerly
Westsail
Whitby
Yamaha
Yankee
Also see our web sites for these popular brands
BeneteauOwners.net

CatalinaOwners.com

HunterOwners.com

MacgregorOwners.com

OdayOwners.com

You can ask a million questions and wait for answers or you can go to the reference section of your public library and spend a pleasant day reading about the many hundreds of boats that exist. There are wonderful boats that were built be superb builders and craftsmen of the very best materials and were not profitable so the builder went broke. The boats are still there and in fine condition.

 

[Maine Sail]

Kevan I'm

finally not typing from my phone. You have a ton of good advice here and I heartily second Lance's recommendation on vessel condition especially if you are not handy.

Some other things to consider would be looking into a crew match in your area. These usually take place through yacht clubs and they may get you on a number of different boats which would let you feel out different brands, types & sizes of boats.

I think the decision on size will be a mostly personal one but do consider that if you are trying to launch a big boat via trailer you may still need the mast stepping services of a local yard.

Look, look, look and bring your spouse if you have one as it is very important to have consensus on head, galley v-berth etc. etc.. Also take your time and when you find the boat model you want it will hit you.

Don't exclude brands. I made this mistake long ago and looked at everything but a Catalina 30. When all was said and done it was the last boat I looked at and it was a Catalina 30. That boat served us well for a number of years even though I had some fairly mis-directed preconceived notions about the mast steps on $those boats. Ours never gave us an ounce of problems.

Finally I have no issues with Cap't Ron. In fact, I think we think a lot alike. Apparently he has different feelings towards me than I do him but none the less he's a good guy and I'm sure did not mean to derail your thread. I officially apologize for any perceived derailment by the two of us. I'm not a Hunter defender nor a Hunter promoter. I just want you to explore all your options as this will be a big decision.

My perception is that Ron was trying to help and contributing information he thought may steer you in a better direction than a Hunter. As Ross said there are LOTS of boats out there.

I fully understand Ron's reasoning behind his Hunter posts and he is 100% justified in his feelings. If what happened to him, happened to me, I'd be very angry as well. There is NO excuse for a keel falling off or losing a rudder but this is certainly not the norm with Hunter's. All boats have some issues. Perhaps the Hunter is the totally wrong boat for you but it's worth spending 30 minutes looking at one to rule it out.

You may also want to begin perusing Yachtworld.com if you have not already done so.


Bellow is a Yachtworld.com link searched with the following criteria:

All Sail
Ontario
22-36 Feet
$15,000 - $50,000

P.S. You have quite a good selection to begin searching up there..

 

[elle]

What a list!

The point being, there's a lot to choose from , and several will probably suit your needs just fine.

However, I's like to point you to the Rhodes 22, (www.rhodes22.com) for several reasons:

It has in-mast furling, standing head room, positive flotation (it WILL NOT sink..see the website for a demo), trailerable, if you should wish, with a mast-raising system that is effortless.

You can also have a marine head and many other features...

You can buy a new or recycled (used and totally refurbished)...with a marine survey B/US will treat it as a new boat for insurance purposes.
Can't lose.

elle