what boat should i buy?

[Recess]

Nice looking boat FOB

That is one very impressively equipped boat. I think you have included all the comforts that I would want to eventually get. Very beautiful boat!

 

[Scott]

There's your answer ...

That is very expensive for a 20+ year old 27' Catalina, but you are in Canada where you will have to pay more, and it looks to be impeccible, so the owner may have justification for the high price tag. You would need to spend at least $15 K less for a similar vintage Catalina 27 in the States, but you may then have considerable transportation expense and you will need to spend AT LEAST $10 K adding all the features that makes this boat so attractive.

Forget the small boats. I'm 50, too. Why would you have any desire to have to deal with a small cabin and a small cockpit, with no headroom anywhere, when you have the wide open spaces of Lake Ontario to enjoy? I'll bet the Catalina 27 has better headroom than I've got on our Starwind 27 and at my age I can't imagine dealing with any less space. My choice would be to even go larger. You say you are used to power boats. Well, a similar size power boat has far more headroom and space than you will find on a sail boat, so you probably would be absolutely dejected with the space on a 25' sailboat or less.

Don't bother with a swing keel, or wing keel either. What's the point with that on Lake Ontario? Don't bother with a boat on a trailer either. Why put up with that nuisance? There isn't enough room for you on the Great Lakes?

It looks like you can end your frustration right now. Make a deal on that beautiful boat while you still have half the season to enjoy it!

 

[FOB]

It will make its new owner very happy!

Thank you, i do indeed take very good care of her. and yes, there isn't much else that i could add to her. Here in Canada I think it is fairly priced for this area, The condition she is in, with everything she has and all the new equipment thats on her. Also, I had the survey done on her in 2006, not 2005 (my typo), I know when People are looking for a used boat it is nice to see a fairly recent survey, however, I strongly recommend having your own survey completed of course!

Thanks.
FOB

 

[sailorKevan]

FOB-boat looks great

hey FOB: a couple ppl saw the link to your boat and they all seemed impressed with and think it is a good deal-they just say to make sure to take a good look at it=and i myself think its a very nice looking boat-im un-sure about the keel-but it has all the add-ons that i have been told to try to get as to save money by buying them myself-its a bit out of my price range which was supposed to read 10-2k-i'm looking to sell a cpl vehicles and maybe could afford an offer anyways-so thats where i stand-could you tell me if a slip is available if i were to buy it and if so could you give me details on prices etc-thanks kevan oh=the slip doesnt have to be in oakville-bronte would be good and la-salle better

 

[sailorKevan]

FOB-boat looks great

hey FOB: your boat looks great-also a cpl members here sent me comment as well stateing to take a good look at it-but they agreed if she is sound that it is a good deal: the problem is i still don't know about the keel-if it shoould be a fixed one or not and the second is money-in my original post i put down the wrong amount-it should have read 19-20k-i have tried to get some more raise but am only close to 25k and i dont want to borrow that unless its really an emergency-i do have a couple trucks and a van that im trying to sell-wait n see-anyways FOB i'm heading to bronte tommorow morn, and if i have time i still would like to see her if thats ok-where is she located-at oakville? if i somehow did purchase it, is there docking available-if not do you know anywhere betweeen oakville and hamilton-thanks-kevan

 

[Paul Cairoli]

Catalina in Barrie Ontario

I have a 1988 Catalina 27 boat is south of Barrie Ont

Over $10,000 spent on new interior all new sails other gear ... boat is perfect

Selling because all I do is race my J22

Can be seen at

www.bayharbouryachts.on.ca

Price is flexible

paul

 

[sailorKevan]

FOB your boat seems great

hey FOB: your boat looks good-cpl members here checked it out and they also said it seems like a good deal, but just check it to be sure-problem is my amount that i have to spend isnt enough-it should have read 10-20k-anyways i have access to a bit more if i really need-but im still short-i have 3 trucks for sale so maybe-anyways i'm going to bronte - i still would like to see her if its ok-if so-i think your at the oakville marina right? also is there slips available there-or do you know where there may be some avail. thanks-kevan

 

[Jerry]

Buy a Hunter Vision 32'

Freestanding mast, amazing interior
space, headroom. A condo on the
water.

 

[sailorKevan]

ATTN: scott=check this one out

hey scott: check this out-www.bayharbouryachts.on.ca-there is not much on her but the price is alot closer and if it has alot of what FOB's it might be worth the extra drive to see-hey Paul Cairoli-could you please post more info on your 88 catalina 27 footer-thanks-also thanks to everyone who posted replies-this a great site-im glad i found it-and even after i find a boat-this site will now become a daily routine for me to check-out of all the replies there was only one smart @ss remark-so i think that is pretty good-also-i really think ill be sailing on lake ontario within a week or 2-in my very own new (used) boat-thanks kevan-oh=one more thing-i mentioned that i am manager at a veterans club-well-the old boys know all about this and they are eagerly waiting for me daily for updates asw i have told a cpl of them that i will be takin em out fishing-so they are really excited=kevan

 

[FOB]

You Get what you pay for

Kevan... I no issues with this Keel, she is more sturdy in rough seas with this keel due to the shape and added weight. and when sailing, i don't have any issues pointing. + you can get nice and close in an anchorage with the 3.5 draft.

As far as the price, there is a little room, but not too much. its simple, You get what you pay for...

give me a call if you want to talk and take a look at it, and we will go from there. There are slips available for this size boat in Oakville, and Bronte with the town im sure, and you rent it from the town, you don't have to purchase it like you mentioned with La Salle.
Im actually around this Saturday if you are interested.

FOB
416-464-4555

 

[sailorKevan]

i love it

FOB: hey everything your saying is true-and i love her-honestly-she looks so sleek and it seems to have everything i need-(ive got a pic of her as my background on my laptop here-lol)but im not a little short-im like 7 shy if i remember your original of 32-kevan-oh and i still would like to see her if there is time

 

[Cap't Ron]

Among issues with Hunter's

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Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:52:51 -0700 (PDT
Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 8:01 AM






I have seen this as well as zincs on the inside of the shaft. Attended a loss
where the sea water pressure pushed the carbon/graphite flange against the
stainless rotor as it is designed to do. Unfortunately the set screws were not
hardened steel, corroded, slid up the shaft and the vessel, a 46 Hunter which
had just been delivered and not used by the owner yet , sunk at the dock.
CTL, brand new boat. A small hose clamp could have likely slowed this down
enough to allow time for someone to notice what was going on. I have since
that time always recommended a stop clamp snugged about 1/16" forward of the
rotor. BTW, that hunter was taken back to the factory, rebuilt, sold again. I
delivered it to Norfolk, got off the boat. On it's way to ST. Thomas, the
rudder fell out and they lost the boat.... John McDonough AMS Rye, NH


I see hose clamps on the shaft about 1/4" away from the gland, both on
dripless and regular glands. The alleged purpose is to prevent the
shaft from slipping out of the coupling if the coupling set screw comes
loose - WIRE THE COUPLING SCREW!


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[Maine Sail]

Cap Ron..

That description by the surveyor sounds like a dripless shaft seal not a coupling whre the set screws could be moused together.

If the stainless rotor slid up the shaft it was an installation issue. PSS's for example use two set screws, one on top of the other, both with Loctite on the threads. These set screws are to be tightened onto the shaft ONCE. If someone along the way adjusted the seal by backing the sect screws off they should have replaced the set screws before re-tightening.

While it's possible someone at Hunter f'd up when installing this seal it also could have been a dealer adjustment too. There is no way to mouse the set screws on a PSS together as they are allen head sec screes that is whay one is installed on top of the oteher to prevent them from backing out. It sounds to me, from reading that description, that there was only one set screw installed in each hole, instead of two. One set screw is an improper installation...

 

[Cap't Ron]

Maine Sail

This was sent to me by a friend, and you could be right, and likely are.

As you all know, I am NOT fond of Hunter's (having one sink out from under me 1/2 way to the islands) but I have sailed on many, they perform well, are a
"perfect" bay yacht, and eye-pleaser and the company does follow up on issues pretty well.

I posted this for educational value and these guys never post anything untrue.
Their opinions have been off tho~

Wanna hear bout keel bolts loosening on a Hinkely?I am a real Hinkely fan too.

Aye mate

 

[Cap't Ron]

Loosened Keel Bolts

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Thanks to those who replied.

When the keel bolts nuts were fully excavated from the epoxy filler, it was
possible to take up two full turns on all ten bolts. That's pretty loose!
There never was a visible crack at the hull keel crack, so perhaps the 5200
was holding the keel up.

It seems likely that the water seeping from the keel bolt cavities was bilge
water whose passage was made possible by the loose bolts. The yard suggests
that 25 years of winter storage with the weight on the keel may have
compressed the fiberglass keel stub and caused the looseness. The boat has
been stored inside in the Northeast but not in heated sheds, so freezing may
have had something to do with it.

As for the blistering Awlstar, no explanation has emerged. Further, when the
Awlstar was removed to be replaced with Micron 66, a fist size chunk of the
keel was found to be corroded away. Expoxy mix was used to fill the hole.

What would attack the lead in a localized area?

 

[sailorKevan]

Capt'n Ron and Maine Sal

WHAT ARE YOU guys doing on this thread? What does this have to do with HUNTERS?

 

[Nice N Easy]

Too much money

Kevin, That is one hell of a nice boat, but the asking price is waaaay out of line. ( Sorry FOB ) If boats are that high in Canada, buy one somewhere down south and take it north. A friend of mine just passed on a 1980 model Almand 30, which is probably the biggest 30 footer ever. Asking price was 10K, but the boat had a lot of blisters and the owner wouldn't deal at all concerning them. He ended up buying a very nice Newport 27, for 6500 bucks. Another friend of mine purchased a 1989 Catalina 30, which is very nice, for under 30K. I recently sold a 28' 1980 S2, which was more loaded than FOB's Catalina. And I can assure you the S2's are better boats. Mine had radar, autopilot, chartplotter, big inverter, etc. NADA book on it was 16.5K. So do your homework, and find a boat you like. But don't pay 30K for a nearly 30 year old 27 footer, no matter how nice it is.

 

[Maine Sail]

Kevan..

It's simple cap'n ron dislikes Hunters and as such posted an excerpt from a story of a Hunter sinking. I was simply clarifying that this may not have even been the fault of Hunter as we don't know the whole story and it could have very well not been the fault of the factory as we really don't know who installed that seal.

I happen to think a Hunter, Catalina or any other production boat would suit the OP just fine for his stated purpose and did not want him scared off of a Hunter over something that may not have even been a Hunter issue. There are thousands of Hunters treating thousands of sailors just fine....

That's what I'm doing here.... Do we have a new modeator?

 

[sailorKevan]

Nice N Easy

thanks Nice N Easy-obviously i,m no where near as experienced as you are but i was thinking the same thing about the price-sorry FOB-i really like and want that boat and would be there first thing in the morning-or tonight-jus say when-but to me your a way over priced-if you were aSking say 25k OBO and would bend to 22=23k you would probably have 22-23k in your pocket right now but-i have been surfing the web for quite some time and even though the boat has everything and with my typo saying i have 20-39k i really think you seen a guy that may be a little gullible and doesnt know much about sailoboats and figured you could get a few more than whats she is worth-maybe im wrong-but hey FOB-the economy is taking a crap-your boat is 20+ yrs old-if it takes you an extra year to say get 28K for it-is it really worth it-think about it-maybe you want to move up to bigger-or down to smaller-or get out completely-well isnt it worth it to drop 5=6 thousand off the price and get rid of her immediately-you obviously have plans-how long ypou willing to wait to set those plkans into action-and also look at it this way-your getting a fair buck for an excellent product-your selling to a rookie sailor and you would be making my year and look at all the veterans your helping out at my club where i work-i have 2 eighty year olds that i promised a sail to-and they mean business and i will take them because these guys are right on ppl-they fought for us and jeez-id do just about anything for them-kevan

 

[sailorKevan]

MainSail thanks for the explaination

it just looks like its an ongoing dis-agreement between you 2 guys and that its spilling all over the place in here!