what boat should i buy? PART 2
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Lance , I still have the axe that my ancestor brought
from England in 1642. five new heads and 12 new handles and still the same axe. ;D
from England in 1642. five new heads and 12 new handles and still the same axe. ;D
Yea Ross, it's funny how that goes-
I am sure in most cases new goods cost less than long term upkeep of used. But my mind and hands are preprogrammed to think "fix-it-up". If someone gave me a new boat I would somehow be anxious that it was finished.
I am sure in most cases new goods cost less than long term upkeep of used. But my mind and hands are preprogrammed to think "fix-it-up". If someone gave me a new boat I would somehow be anxious that it was finished.
old age and treachery
Ross is right. I have a C&C that is 37 years old and in most ways is newer than many boats a quater it's age. You are not going to wear a hull out..it will be the sails, the rigging, the old wiring and plumbing. These can be replaced and are as good as new then. If an old boat has been well maintained it can be much better than something that has been neglected it's entire short life. Many older boats have thicker hulls and no core which makes them much more solid. Not to mention old boats like old guys have a lot of experience! LOL
Hughes are good boats but because they have tumblehome hulls they can be a little trickier to dock. The CS and C&C along with the Hughes are all built in Canada and like I mentioned to you earlier...I was told that makes them easier to bring back into Canada. I would check that out tho
Ross is right. I have a C&C that is 37 years old and in most ways is newer than many boats a quater it's age. You are not going to wear a hull out..it will be the sails, the rigging, the old wiring and plumbing. These can be replaced and are as good as new then. If an old boat has been well maintained it can be much better than something that has been neglected it's entire short life. Many older boats have thicker hulls and no core which makes them much more solid. Not to mention old boats like old guys have a lot of experience! LOL
Hughes are good boats but because they have tumblehome hulls they can be a little trickier to dock. The CS and C&C along with the Hughes are all built in Canada and like I mentioned to you earlier...I was told that makes them easier to bring back into Canada. I would check that out tho
Lance , I found a brand new shovel blade
with the stub of a broken handle in it. I paid more for a new handle than the price tag on a complete shovel in the next bin. But the shovel head I was fixing was a top of the line Ames and the complete shovel was a house brand gardening shovel.
with the stub of a broken handle in it. I paid more for a new handle than the price tag on a complete shovel in the next bin. But the shovel head I was fixing was a top of the line Ames and the complete shovel was a house brand gardening shovel.
MAKE AN OFFER FAIR TO BOTH PARTIES
30 seconds of clear thinking could pay your slip fees for two years!
30 seconds of clear thinking could pay your slip fees for two years!
well hopfully this will all be over tommorow-and that im buying one from here just to save the hasel
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I am not pretending to be an expert- I am just offering
ideas from looking in my past and seeing how I might have done things different. I say don't get in a hurry about deciding what you will pay based on what someone is asking. In a lot of ways right now you are more an asset to a seller than a seller is to you. If a deal is not made, you can go look at 10 boats in an afternoon. It is not very likely that a specific boat sitting for sale will have 10 buyers with cash in hand come calling in the same time. (although it does happen on special boats)
ideas from looking in my past and seeing how I might have done things different. I say don't get in a hurry about deciding what you will pay based on what someone is asking. In a lot of ways right now you are more an asset to a seller than a seller is to you. If a deal is not made, you can go look at 10 boats in an afternoon. It is not very likely that a specific boat sitting for sale will have 10 buyers with cash in hand come calling in the same time. (although it does happen on special boats)
Good boats at bargain prices
Kevan,
Every once in a while a real deal comes by. You need to know what you want, or can live with before hand. Then when a deal comes along, you can jump on it. That Seafarer was probably a deal, and as such it didn't last long. The really good boats at really good prices will go in a heartbeat. Another thing to consider is buying a smaller starter boat, and sailing it for a year or two. This will teach you a lot, and give you lots more knowledge than you have. Someone suggested a Catalina 22. I would think you could buy one of those for two or three grand, sail it for a year or two, enjoy the hell out of it, take care of it, and not loose a dime when you want to move up in size.
Kevan,
Every once in a while a real deal comes by. You need to know what you want, or can live with before hand. Then when a deal comes along, you can jump on it. That Seafarer was probably a deal, and as such it didn't last long. The really good boats at really good prices will go in a heartbeat. Another thing to consider is buying a smaller starter boat, and sailing it for a year or two. This will teach you a lot, and give you lots more knowledge than you have. Someone suggested a Catalina 22. I would think you could buy one of those for two or three grand, sail it for a year or two, enjoy the hell out of it, take care of it, and not loose a dime when you want to move up in size.
The CS 27
I looked at a CS27 with a friend of mine just a couple of weeks ago. Almost an identical boat as that one. Not as clean. Very well built boats and from the cockpit size and depth I would think it was designed with some rough weather in mind. But not much usable space inside, compared to most others this size. This is in pretty good condition, and can more than likely be had for 5k. Have you considered buying a boat elsewhere, and sailing it home. Or finding someone to do it for you. Should be pretty easy, that would be a really nice trip.
I looked at a CS27 with a friend of mine just a couple of weeks ago. Almost an identical boat as that one. Not as clean. Very well built boats and from the cockpit size and depth I would think it was designed with some rough weather in mind. But not much usable space inside, compared to most others this size. This is in pretty good condition, and can more than likely be had for 5k. Have you considered buying a boat elsewhere, and sailing it home. Or finding someone to do it for you. Should be pretty easy, that would be a really nice trip.
i never thought of it until that one guy said hire someone
then i thought why not do it myself-but if i can i would like to buy one here because i think there right-the red tape will drive you nuts
then i thought why not do it myself-but if i can i would like to buy one here because i think there right-the red tape will drive you nuts
hey NiceNeasy: did the cs have a galley and a head
did you happen to notice anything in the galley-how about headroom?
did you happen to notice anything in the galley-how about headroom?
I'll bet you
Kevan,
I'll bet a couple of beers that the red tape isn't that bad, if you go about it in the proper way. Easy to call customs and find out how many hoops you will have to jump through. Seems to me that you could buy a nice boat in the states, sail it home, have a wonderful adventure, and be way ahead dollar wise. Prices I see on boats up there are double or triple stateside prices. Lots of folks on this board would probably be happy to sail short sections with you.
Kevan,
I'll bet a couple of beers that the red tape isn't that bad, if you go about it in the proper way. Easy to call customs and find out how many hoops you will have to jump through. Seems to me that you could buy a nice boat in the states, sail it home, have a wonderful adventure, and be way ahead dollar wise. Prices I see on boats up there are double or triple stateside prices. Lots of folks on this board would probably be happy to sail short sections with you.
i dont know about triple but i have seen alot of boats
lately and some are definately doubled-kevan
lately and some are definately doubled-kevan
Looked at too
Looked at too many boats to remember much. Headroom was a little less than 6' if I remember right. Had a two burner alcohol stove, and I think a porta potti. I was really impressed with the cockpit, which was deep and fairly small. No way to get pooped and hurt in that thing. Robust construction. Mostly I remember that it seemed like an extremely well built boat, intended to sail and survive in some pretty rough conditions.
Looked at too many boats to remember much. Headroom was a little less than 6' if I remember right. Had a two burner alcohol stove, and I think a porta potti. I was really impressed with the cockpit, which was deep and fairly small. No way to get pooped and hurt in that thing. Robust construction. Mostly I remember that it seemed like an extremely well built boat, intended to sail and survive in some pretty rough conditions.
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