Water Heater - Heat Exchanger Problems

Sep 27, 2008
209
Hunter 41 Longport,NJ
New Kuma water heater worked great for a season - and now won't heat through the heat exchanger Removed the coolant hose (input)- turned the engine and no coolant being pumped. Replaced the thermostat, and still no luck. Engine has not overheated , but still no luck on the coolant - please don;t tell me I need to replace the coolant pump....
 
Sep 27, 2008
209
Hunter 41 Longport,NJ
There is definitely a pressure relief valve, but I don;t know what a thermostatic valve looks like - I should have posted a picture
 
Aug 29, 2018
2
Islander 40 MS St Croix
New Kuma water heater worked great for a season - and now won't heat through the heat exchanger Removed the coolant hose (input)- turned the engine and no coolant being pumped. Replaced the thermostat, and still no luck. Engine has not overheated , but still no luck on the coolant - please don;t tell me I need to replace the coolant pump....
Buy a Torrid heater if you can
 
Oct 29, 2012
353
Catalina 30 TRBS MkII Milwaukee
New Kuma water heater worked great for a season - and now won't heat through the heat exchanger Removed the coolant hose (input)- turned the engine and no coolant being pumped. Replaced the thermostat, and still no luck. Engine has not overheated , but still no luck on the coolant - please don;t tell me I need to replace the coolant pump....
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A little more information might be helpful.
My first thought is the thermostat on the engine.
But without knowing what engine, what year and what kind of boat, it's just throwing darts.
Things working fine last season don't usually just go bad during the winter unless something else is involved. But typically if it wasn't winterized properly it would be the domestic water side and not the coolant.
Some older boats with a universal m25 had a valve between the inlet and return that could be closed to bypass heating the unit if it didn't have potable/domestic water in it, like when winterized
 
Jun 19, 2004
365
Island Packet IP 32 99 Forked River, NJ
Ours had a "tempering valve" about 1" diameter 8" long 'L' shape. If you have that you should remove it. Kuuma no longer sells it. Prone to fail and antifreeze leaks into your fresh water system.
 
Sep 27, 2008
209
Hunter 41 Longport,NJ
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Was the water heater not winterize last year? I’m guessing it is a simple air block. A utility pump and a container of coolant is your best friend to resolve that.
Thanks - just pump some coolant into the intake until it comes through on the outlet pipe ?
 
Jan 4, 2006
7,150
Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
Thanks - just pump some coolant into the intake until it comes through on the outlet pipe ?
If you can set that up, that's and excellent way to check for any obstruction in the heat exchanger tubing.

While you're at it, if you can get a few pictures of the inlet and outlet connections on the tank, that will tell if there is any type of thermostatic device on there.
 
Sep 27, 2008
209
Hunter 41 Longport,NJ
Hi all - found this image in an older forum - this is what is on mine - should I also start by replacing this mixing valve ? I understand they are no longer available. Anyone have a recommendation for a replacement model (that woudl be relatively easy to install ?
 

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Jan 4, 2006
7,150
Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
Anyone have a recommendation for a replacement model (that woudl be relatively easy to install ?
In my opinion, they are a complete waste of money. If you have one, remove it and install your hot and cold connections without one.

Your tank has the ability to produce water at temperatures up to 180° from the engine but rarely is that temperature available once a little cold water enters the tank. If one is so helpless as to not be able to control the temperature of the hot water outlet, being out on the water is the LAST place they should be.
 
May 7, 2012
1,522
Hunter e33 Maple Bay, BC
For 10 years we had out Watts mixer value set to not mix (ie be damned, give us water as hot as it gets). Yup when the hot water initially came out of the tap at that 180° the skin from my old and decrepit body was almost pealed off when I washed my hands or showered. By the time I finally got it adjusted to a comfortable temperature and volume (ie mixed manually at the hot and cold faucets) I had wasted a goodly portion of that tank of hot water and also wasted a goodly portion of my library of curse words. As the cold water replaced and thus cooled the hot water in the tank, the faucets had to be continuously (manually) adjusted to maintain a comfortable temperature at the tap.
This year I set the mixer valve so I only need to open the hot water faucet. Glorious 110° temperature water no matter which of our 3 methods of heating the water is used (120V (approx 140°), engine (approx 180°) or Espar hydronic furnace (approx 160°). Of course the water in the tank has to be >110° or you get whatever is left.
Mix the water automatically at the outlet of the tank or mix it manually at the end usage point and practice your good sailor vocabulary.
Your water tank, your choice.
 
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Oct 26, 2010
86
Hunter 340 Deltaville Va
I ran into a similar problem. Engine warmed up, no hot water from water heater. My solution was simple once discover. Looking top-down, I couldn't see that the water supply bypass was closed. Dope slap! When I winterized I needed to bypass the heater. Come Spring I forgot to open it up again. It may not be your solution, but it was mine.
 
Jan 7, 2011
5,436
Oday 322 East Chicago, IN
I ran into a similar problem. Engine warmed up, no hot water from water heater. My solution was simple once discover. Looking top-down, I couldn't see that the water supply bypass was closed. Dope slap! When I winterized I needed to bypass the heater. Come Spring I forgot to open it up again. It may not be your solution, but it was mine.
I did that once…even replaced the thermostat/high temp limiter…still no hot water…later realized I opened 2 of the 3 the valves for bypassing my WH to winterize it.:facepalm:

Greg
 
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Jan 19, 2010
12,553
Hobie 16 & Rhodes 22 Skeeter Charleston
I did that once…even replaced the thermostat/high temp limiter…still no hot water…later realized I opened 2 or the valves for bypassing my WH to winterize it.:facepalm:

Greg
Oh.... I feel your pain. I once installed a brand new LED bow nav. light pod and rewired all of the electric in a Macgregor 22...right before I put my boat up for the winter. Spring comes and the lights don't work. Tested the voltage at the lights and had 13V.... Tested the voltage at the battery, same....so I replaced my brand new LED lights.... still no joy. Ripped out my new wiring and started over.... still no joy.... flipped the switch to the nav lights only to notice the voltage dropped to 2V at the light when the switch was flipped..... After much hair pulling realized I had some corrosion at the battery terminal .... brushed it off.... JOY! And much internal turmoil for all the wasted time and money I had spent chasing a ghost.