Vega Part needed... barrel bolt

rchrdcoe · Oct 9, 2006

groundhog-
When I rebuilt the engine access, I put small cleats on the
underside of the step, eliminating the need for the barrel bolts.
The ones I had were cut down from std. parts.
Richard,V1812

mnhdl · Oct 9, 2006

Hi,

THis might seems completly crazy but what would you think about installing a
bow truster on a Vega to ease the manoeuver in difficult wind condition or
restreint space?

Thank you!

Marie

stevebirch2002 · Oct 9, 2006

Hi

Waste of time, money and effort. Manoeuvering comes with practice and
understanding what/where you Vega will point. All you need is a bit of
confidence in close quarters. When I sailed my first Vega I was
terrified as I took 17 attempts to get out of a marina berth but always
first time now!

Cheers

Steve Birch (Technical)

Vega1447 · Oct 9, 2006

Hi Steve.

I'm sure you are right about bow thruster but I'm willing to bet that if
you reverse out with a good breeze on your beam your bow blows downwind no
matter what was intended?

That's assuming you haven't cheated and used warps or friendly passers
by

- there are days when that's the only way I can get out when I'm
sailing solo..

all the best,

John

Vega 1447 Breakaway

stevebirch2002 · Oct 9, 2006

Warps aint cheating, crew aint cheating, using anything at your disposal
aint cheating.

When I was in the army an instructor taught me "The 6 P's"

"Planning and Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance!

Steve Birch (Technical)

txsailcouple · Oct 9, 2006

# 1 I don't think you could find one that small. # 2 It would eat up so much battery power you'd need to install an extra battery & # 3 It wouldn't give you as much extra maneuvering as having an outboard on the stern, even a 4 horse o/b would spin you around like a top!
Once you cut a huge hole in your boat it'll be there forever!!!! Think twice.
John

marie marie mnhdl@... wrote:
Hi,

THis might seems completly crazy but what would you think about installing a
bow truster on a Vega to ease the manoeuver in difficult wind condition or
restreint space?

Thank you!

Marie

wxt8981 · Oct 9, 2006

I wouldn't worry about a bow thruster: I have 4 barges
waiting for me when I come near my slip- 1 at the bow, 1 at
the stern, and the other 2 on the sides, and they get me
into the slip with my eyes closed.
Just kidding!
Wilhelm, V-257

coonhopper2000 · Oct 9, 2006

zzzzzz zzzzzzzzz....

"John A. Kinsella" John.Kinsella@... wrote: Hi Steve.

I'm sure you are right about bow thruster but I'm willing to bet that if
you reverse out with a good breeze on your beam your bow blows downwind no
matter what was intended?

That's assuming you haven't cheated and used warps or friendly passers
by

- there are days when that's the only way I can get out when I'm
sailing solo..

all the best,

John

Vega 1447 Breakaway

Vega1447 · Oct 9, 2006

Hi Pat - not sure what to make of your reply.

It didn't seem very friendly.

Should I be offended?

All the best,

John

Vega 1447 Breakaway

svegala · Oct 9, 2006

I agree Warps aint cheating, crew aint cheating, What is cheating anyway?

But, Steve ,give me a quick lesson on how to make my lovely Svegala go astern
in the way i want it to goDenis from Dublin

Vega1447 · Oct 10, 2006

N e i l K said in an email sent on 10/10/06 00:59 that:

wxt8981 · Oct 10, 2006

Hi John:
I can feel your frustration when the boat goes to other way
and not the way you would like her to go. But there are
ways to help in these situations: When the wind blows into
the slip- no problem. Keep the stern line on until you're
ready to back out. When the wind wants to blow you out of
the slip, run the prop in reverse (idle should do), untie
the boat and with the last one again the stern line, then
rev-up the engine (reverse) and hope for the best. If the
stern still falls off the wrong side, so what! Go the
"wrong" side" until you have enough room to go forward
where you have steerage. The hardest way to get out of a
slip is when the wind comes off the side, but again, don't
fight it! Once again, if there's enough room, go forward
and you're done. But if your boat happens to be in the
wrong direction (for out), rev up the engine (in reverse)
and you'll get enough steerage to get the boat where you
want to go.
I sail almost 100% single handed; I'm in a quite narrow
channel and often have to back the boat out for some 300
Yards. And I never hit anybody. I suggest you put a marker
somewhere outside where you don't bother anybody, and then
learn to back to that marker- from about some 100 feet, and
from any side! You'll be surprised how much you can learn
about your boat- with nobody looking at you when you make
mistakes!
Good Luck..... Wilhelm, V-257

Vega1447 · Oct 10, 2006

Thanks Wilhelm,

I'll put the marker where no-one can see me & give it a go this weekend!

John

Vega 1447 Breakaway

WL said in an email sent on 10/10/06 14:42 that:

stevebirch2002 · Oct 10, 2006

Hi Denis

As WL says practice, practice, practice. When no one is looking....

Steve Birch (Technical)

stevebirch2002 · Oct 10, 2006

Hi All

Lessons now available at very reasonable cost in Fareham on how to crash
your Vega whilst parking. Ponttons are just an extra method of braking,
dont worry.

PS Bring your own Vega as I dont want to dent mine!!

Cheers

Steve Birch (Technical)

neyorolf · Oct 10, 2006

Hi all,

Does an extra rudder at the stern help?

I started making one but it turned out to be quite heavy and I'm reshaping
it this winter. Hope it will work.

Kind regards,

Flor Oyen

Mohana V 566 ,

Nieuwpoort , Belgium

_____

Van: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com] Namens
Steve Birch
Verzonden: dinsdag 10 oktober 2006 16:49
Aan: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: [AlbinVega] Re: bow truster

Hi All

Lessons now available at very reasonable cost in Fareham on how to crash
your Vega whilst parking. Ponttons are just an extra method of braking,
dont worry.

PS Bring your own Vega as I dont want to dent mine!!

Cheers

Steve Birch (Technical)

SVFlyAway · Oct 10, 2006

All,

After the discussion on bow thrusters and backing out of a slip, I was
wondering about experiences backing into a slip - thus making leaving
easier.

In my experience in other boats I found backing in relatively easy,
especially since the end where I was located happened to be the first end to
near the dock - thus giving me more "hand-on" control and allowing me to get
onto the dock with the line I led aft from the bow.

Thanks

wxt8981 · Oct 10, 2006

Hi John,
give it a try, you'll be surprised how good a Vega backs
up. You just have to get her going! By the way- I wouldn't
back into a slip because if you make a mistake, there's
much less room to recover. Besides, it's not nice to hit
the boat next door....? And all that talk about ores and
2nd rudders, sounds like a joke.
Another good tip for heading into the slip; tie up with the
stern line, but let the engine running (at idle speed, or
if you have a variable pitch prop, at the lowes ahead
speed)that will keep the boat against the side where the
stern line is. Then go forward and tie the boat. Stop the
engine when the bow is tied up.
Wilhelm, V-257

archikumm · Oct 10, 2006

Hi everybody having problems with backing up and steering:
there is a dutch site showing a rudder specialy made for Albin Vega.

http://vegaboatsupplies.oppermans.net/hulproer.htm

I have seen Vegas equipped with this, owners where really happy!

It is sold as a kit on this site
Regards
Th. Kummer - architecte EPFL - Orny - 1372 Bavois
tel: 021 8667423 - fax: 021 8666149
archikum@...

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