Tuning Jib Furling

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Jun 4, 2004
37
Catalina 320 MDR
I am having a problems get the front edge of my 1995 Hood jib furling sail to line up right. The front edge of my UK tape drive seem to settle in at about 45* angle to the helm which is ok for running and broad reach but not when I am heading up wind. I can walk forward and twist the furling tube aft to line up nicely but as soon as I let go it will fall back to the same position. The boat (Catalina 320) sail great. When sailing up wind I tighten the sheet to about an inch or so off the spreader ( depending on the wind) but I think I could point a few degree higher if I can work out this problems. It seems like there would be an easy fix but I have figured it out yet. Any ideas out there? Maybe my furling line is stretching too much after I lock it off, but I don't think that it?
Thanks JOHN
 

Tim R.

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May 27, 2004
3,626
Caliber 40 Long Range Cruiser Portland, Maine
17 years is pretty old for a sail unless it was not used much., I would say it is likely blown out and only a new sail will resolve this issue. Even trying to have it re-shaped would be a waste as the Dacron has probably lost all it's stiffness.
 
Sep 15, 2009
6,244
S2 9.2a Fairhope Al
just a suggestion here ...if you have all your furler line un wrapped from the drum you may need to add a few turns of line on the drum in order to have better control .....dont know if this is what youar looking for but it is what comes to my mind based on your input...

regards

woody
 
Jun 7, 2007
515
Hunter 320 Williamsburg
Whoa...

You may have developed twist atop the forestay, and I'm not talking about twist in the context of the sail plan. Over time, the forestay may have gotten so wound up as to impinge the turning of the drum below.

1. Start with binocs to see if you can see anything.
2. Drop the headstay to see if it or line is beaten up.
3. Ride up to the top to have a look-see up close.
 

RichH

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Feb 14, 2005
4,773
Tayana 37 cutter; I20/M20 SCOWS Worton Creek, MD
Two things can cause such as what you describe:

1. Jib halyard tension is too tight causing the top and bottom swivels to 'bind' which will increase friction in the bearings.
OR.......
2. Look at the 'lead angle' that the jib halyard makes with the top swivel. If the top swivel is not almost all the way at the very top of the foil, the important 'lead angle' will be 'out of spec' and the improper angle (of the halyard TO the top swivel) will cause periodic and occasional 'binding' (which prevents 'free rotation' of the jib's luff on the foil !!!). The remedy is twofold (your choice) ...

REMEDY A:
• disconnect the bottom swivel from the tack of the sail and raise the sail fully on the foil (dont jam it in the 'top')
• precisely measure the distance between the now raised tack of the sail and the shackle on the bottom swivel.
• make up a rope (or cable) 'pendent' of the measured distance ..... LESS 2 inches and put between the head of the sail and top-swivel.
(If you add 'luff tension' via the halyard to 'shape' the sail ... deduct this amount of luff tension strain from the "measured distance less 2 inches", etc. ... you want the top swivel to be AT or very near the top of the foil when the luff is under maximum halyard strain.)
.... the top swivel MUST be very near the top of the foil or it will 'toggle' and partly jam ..... on 'most' furler systems.

REMEDY B.
If 2a doesnt solve the problem, then install a 'diverter block' on the mast just above the level of the top swivel .... consult your furler installation manual for 'exact' dimensions of where the 'diverter block' should be located.


..... and now your furler will operate much 'smoother' and without periodic 'apparent binding' when 'furling' the sail too.

;-)
 
Sep 25, 2008
1,096
CS 30 Toronto
It's called a "Halyard restrainer". The one made by Shaefer has no moving parts. Harken has one with a roller sheave which I don't like.

The working principle is to ensure there is more than 7 degrees angle for the halyard to the swivel to prevent halyard wrap. It should have been standard equipment but not sure why boat maker don't put them in. Cost saving I suppose.

http://ca.binnacle.com/product_info.php?products_id=3289
 
Jun 4, 2004
37
Catalina 320 MDR
Thanks for all the info. The UK tape drive is only four years old and still in great shape and I do have a Halyard restrainer and the halyard ends where just flopped this year so I don't think it is twisted. Also have a least two wraps of the furling line left on the drum, But it is possible that I might have to much tension on the halyard. I not talking about the jib being off by much, It just my old racing day and wanting to get it just right.
Thanks everyone JOHN
 
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