Trailer for WING Keel

[CloudDiver]

Rob, there a a dozen ways to skin a cat when it comes to mast raising. There several threads on that subject alone along with several YouTube videos. The short story would be use a GIN Pole and if you can set up an electric winch on the back of your tow vehicle it would be the easiest as far as muscle involved.

Hello. Almost hard to believe I found a current thread on the exact issue I'm also looking at. 1 day old couldn't be more current!
I just sold my 1974 Pearson 30 and was looking at a Catalina 270 but really am tired of the slip/inboard whole nine yards. The Venerable and new design of the MkII seems very appealing for my wife, 6 year old and I. The 270 is very similar in size to the old P30, but Modern!!!!
Anyway, as I look at the 22 MKII (I've sailed alot of the 22's prior to buying the P30), I thought about simplifying and trailering. One theme is the constant warning that mast raising is a (1) Pain, and (2) Takes more than 1 person. Want to have my cake and eat it too, so to the question:
The Sail Trailers Price and options are what I'm looking for, tandem, brakes (can you elaborate on what that means, you noted drums earlier, but does this mean something else?), and tongue extension.......
What I don't see, and maybe I need to be corrected here, is the "one man" mast raising system that is alluded to in the C22 MKII Brochure and Trailer Picture. I know this isn't the "stock" trailer from Road King, but does yours from Sail Trailers have the same one man system as what the Road King seems to have???
I love the Sail Trailers out the door price and research you did on quality...I'm the same way, so thanks for this thread. I just know I'll need help with raising and lowering via a trailer mechanism versus depending on my wife and 6 year old...and don't want to try to depend on "nearby folks"...that's just not a good idea.
@ Gene: Did you ever find out the Road King price? Is it competitive?
Apologize for the long question session...but thanks,
Rob

 

[Gene Neill]

@ Gene: Did you ever find out the Road King price? Is it competitive?
Apologize for the long question session...but thanks,
Rob

I just picked my new Road King trailer up yesterday. Yes, it was priced competitively. My experience with the dealer (who also owns the manufacturing facility, or vice versa, it was murky) was not a positive one, however. I would not buy from the same dealer, or even from the Ocala FL manufacturer again, if I had the choice.

I love the trailer, though! Can't wait to get it to the water and see how does!

 

[robcooper0767]

Wow Gene, nice looking piece of equipment!! Beautiful boat, lucky guy....
Will now reconsider single axle, large wheels, looks very substantial.
I see the "u" mounts on bow and stern, but being new to this option, I don't see a 1 man system. Does it have one and how does it work? Maybe more parts in the truck that I can't see?
You got it fast too! Unfortunate about your experience, but sometimes it's what happens. Brake options, tongue extension? Thanks
Any help is appreciated. you guys have done what I want to do and thiese lessons/advice is much appreciated.
Know of any 22's for sale in your area? Very popular boat in FL it seems. thanks

 

[w4swk]

Hi Gene
Glad to hear that you finally have your trailer! Sorry to hear that you have some unhappiness about your transaction though. It's your call but some detail of the problem may be in order (feel free use this thread or start a new one).

On a separate note we are heading down this morning to get my boat! Our hope was to get it yesterday but didn't get home till 4 o'clock AM which made for a very short day! I will post pics of it on the trailer later today...stay tuned!

Ken

 

[robcooper0767]

you guys are awesome!

 

[w4swk]

Hi Rob
This thread is mainly about trailers...I think the information you are looking for is more related to "mast raising". You would probably get more useful information by doing a search for "mast raising" or "gin pole". Another option would be to post your question directly in a new thread. Doing so will allow you to create a new title allowing for others to have a greater chance of seeing and answering your question.

Good Luck
Ken

Wow Gene, nice looking piece of equipment!! Beautiful boat, lucky guy....
Will now reconsider single axle, large wheels, looks very substantial.
I see the "u" mounts on bow and stern, but being new to this option, I don't see a 1 man system. Does it have one and how does it work? Maybe more parts in the truck that I can't see?
You got it fast too! Unfortunate about your experience, but sometimes it's what happens. Brake options, tongue extension? Thanks
Any help is appreciated. you guys have done what I want to do and thiese lessons/advice is much appreciated.
Know of any 22's for sale in your area? Very popular boat in FL it seems. thanks

 

[robcooper0767]

Hi Ken,
Thanks. Please don't misunderstand, i am interested in the trailers, and my excitement over finding a really current thread! What I was hoping to find out is if the 2 manufacturers that you and Gene used included or offer a mast raising option on the trailers you purchased from them...not really the specifics of mast raising itself. I don't see any special equipment in either of your or Gene's photos but ant extra attachments that may have come with the trailers, winches, poles, etc, for mast raising may not be in the photos.
Thanks,
Hope you get that boat soon, sounds like a winner!
Rob

 

[robcooper0767]

@CloudDiver, thanks. sorry I'm confusing myself and probably annoying you all. I thought that the 1 man raise equipment option was part of the actual trailer when I read the C22 MkII brochure...I'm probably wrong.

 

[robcooper0767]

I'm hoping to be smart enough to inquire on the price of this "option??" from the trailer manufacturers, Road King or Sail Trailer.
From the C22 Mk II Brochure: "The new mast raising system allows the skipper to accomplish this task singlehanded.""The mast raising system makes pre-launch preparation fast and easy." In the Brochure Options under SAILS AND RIGGING
D 12801 Mast Raising System with Mast Carrier
Thanks for the help.
Rob

 

[robcooper0767]

View attachment cat22-brochure.pdf

 

[robcooper0767]

Photo in attached brochure. Thanks

 

[Gene Neill]

Rob, here is a link to a C22 Sport for sale that has my same trailer: http://www.powersportbuys.com/en/mo...rt/1578222/2013-catalina-yachts-22-sport.html

This ad features more and better pics than I could possibly provide without making a career of it! The only difference is that, since my boat is so much heavier than the C22 Sport (for which this trailer was specifically designed), I ordered my trailer with a beefier axle and 6-lug, 15" rims (which necessitated the diamond-plate fenders, rather than the plastic ones pictured in the ad). The trailer is rated at a GVWR of 5000 lbs and a 4000 lb capacity.

Incidentally, the trailer in the ad features Road King's mast-raising apparatus. Don't ask me how it works ... that probably is a discussion for another thread anyway.

@w4swk ... waiting for those pics!!!

 

[Gene Neill]

BTW Ken ... I don't want to air any more dirty laundry than I already have. My only advice to those folks in the market for a sailboat trailer is: if you are not buying directly from the manufacturer, buy your sailboat trailer from a SAILBOAT dealer, NOT from a stinkpot dealer.

I'll leave it at that.

 

[w4swk]

A few more pics....

The trip from the lake to home was 92 miles...trailer was a dream to tow! Now to get started on the clean up!:cry:

Ken

 

[seamansg]

Hi all
After years of various boats, I have finally purchased a Catalina 22 WING Keel. The purchase did not include a trailer so I am contracting a local trailer builder to fabricate one for me. I need to provide him with dimensions and cannot find them. I have searched this forum and others and can only find basic, general information. I am in hopes that someone in the great big World Wide Web would have this information.
Specifically, he has asked me to bring him the following:

Keel placement on trailer (to carry keel load)
Axle location
Length of trailer from winch to rear
Height of bunks (and length)
Width of Bunks (front and rear)
Height of Bunks (this one I think I can calculate but otherwise...)

If anyone has this data, I would be extremely grateful!

Thanks in advance
Ken
Texas

I have a 2001 cat 22Mark 11. My trailor was made by Trail Rite Trailors from CA. factory.

 

[w4swk]

Well folks, it appears that my trailer "saga" has ended so I feel the need to bring this thread to a dignified ending. I have used the trailer some and would like to offer a few final thoughts.

I am happy. The folks at Sail Trailers built the trailer that I expected at a very reasonable price and did it in the time frame promised. My trailer was tandem axle, electric brakes, and tongue extension for a price of $2950. I followed their suggestions for "first time loading" and was able to get on the trailer correctly with just one attempt. Actually, my son was driving the boat so he gets credit too! At this point, I would suggest that anyone shopping for a trailer should at least give them a call.

I have one final suggestion...when one tows an unloaded trailer for 1000 miles at 75 MPH, check it closely. Towing empty is pretty hard on it...I noticed it becoming "airborne" more than once. When we arrived, I found one VERY small crack in a fender bracket and I bounced a bolt out of a spring equalizer. Both extremely easy to correct!

I thank those that offered suggestions and provided input. I hope I can repay the effort someday! Now it's time to get on with cleaning, polishing, waxing, repairing, painting....you know, all the NORMAL things involved in boat ownership!

Thanks again
Ken

 

[Gene Neill]

Congrats again Ken, happy sailing and carefree trailering to ya!