Tiller large sailboats?

JRT

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Feb 14, 2017
2,059
Catalina 310 211 Lake Guntersville, AL
Jeanneau Sunfast 3200 & 3600


You did say to ignore budget...... :biggrin:
Leave it to you and Jake to open my eyes to the possibilities that are out there when caution and practicality are dismissed. I just read a review on the Seascape 27, wow!
 

JRT

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Feb 14, 2017
2,059
Catalina 310 211 Lake Guntersville, AL
John,
After a Catalina 30 caught my eye with it's 8' long cockpit, I have been reading up on them. Looks like the earliest years had tillers and some up to 1986 as wheels became an option.
While I'm weighing the pros and cons of moving up to a larger boat, I'm undecided on whether I would rather have tiller or wheel steering. On our 25 I'm finding myself getting more and more annoyed with the tiller and the room it needs to swing but I do enjoy the direct feel of the tiller.
I have far less time on my O'day then you and probably most everyone else, but my feedback is I like the connected feel, it reminds me a simple practical approach. I don't think there is anything wrong with a wheel and it is probably a better choice for many reason, but if I'm looking right now, I think sticking with a tiller would be a nice positive while the wheel would not be a negative, just not a positive to me.
 
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Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
Did the crew not notice the mainsail isn't all the way up? We're never that scalloped even on a light air day.
Based on mainsheet position and the diagonal wrinkles coming from the clew, I guess the scallops are caused by hard mainsheeting, and perhaps a too-soft initial host. Cunningham would pretty that up.
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
Now if someone were looking for a larger tiller-boat with some miles on the clock, it would be VERY HARD to better than the mid-80s Express 37. These sweet sailing boats still have large fleets racing, and a friend of mine is sailing/cruising his all over the world doing all the big ocean races. Every now and then some pervert buys one and converts it to wheel. They are shunned by other owners until he sells, and the new owner promptly converts it back to the way God intended it.

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jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
23,843
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Sweet looking boat Jackdaw...
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
Sweet looking boat Jackdaw...
yea, and they cruise pretty well too. A few years ago I 'raced' my friend Doug to Isle Royale in the middle of Lake Superior, where after we both cruised the National Park for a week. Here is Express 37 'Zippy' in pure cruise mode.

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JRT

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Feb 14, 2017
2,059
Catalina 310 211 Lake Guntersville, AL
Very nice Jackdaw, I found a few listed but they had wheels so now I know to demand a discount in the future:) I like the blend of wood trim with them too, looks comfortable for 2 people.
 

jwing

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Jun 5, 2014
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ODay Mariner Guntersville
Hi John:
I agree that there is value in not setting limitations to dreams and thought experiments. However, if you get serious about upsizing while still on Guntersville, then don't forget about draft considerations. There's a guy at NASM who has had trouble taking his boat out because it was stuck in the mud in his slip. LGSC may have deeper slips.
 
Sep 20, 2014
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Rob Legg RL24 Chain O'Lakes
A T10 or a Mega 30 both are tiller steered boats. Not sure if the T10 has a tall cabin or not. Both boats are considered fast and cheap.
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
A T10 or a Mega 30 both are tiller steered boats. Not sure if the T10 has a tall cabin or not. Both boats are considered fast and cheap.
A Tartan 10 is a coffin with a mast. ;^)

No sane person would own one for any other reason than to race a 30 footer on the cheap.
 
Feb 20, 2011
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Island Packet 35 Tucson, AZ/San Carlos, MX
I've been considering my mortality lately. With the price of coffins nowadays that really might not be a bad idea.
Then you'll have to consider the 5 or 6 burial plots.