Through deck wires for mast lights

Mar 26, 2011
3,672
Corsair F-24 MK I Deale, MD
Can you give a link? I'm corrosion testing a bunch of designs for a review and I could easily add that one.

My concern is that it might not be good around salt.
 
Mar 26, 2011
3,672
Corsair F-24 MK I Deale, MD
I'm probably being stupid, but how do you conect the wires to these? I see them on many connectors of this type. These are NOT the plug pins, these are the ones the wires connect to. The plug separates near the knurled ring.

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Aug 10, 2020
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Catalina C25 3559 Rocky Mount
I'm probably being stupid, but how do you conect the wires to these? I see them on many connectors of this type. These are NOT the plug pins, these are the ones the wires connect to. The plug separates near the knurled ring.

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I assumed solder? I'm really not sure.... I had nothing to go off of originally and found the one pictured on ebay searching for "4 pin bulkhead connector".
 
Aug 10, 2020
531
Catalina C25 3559 Rocky Mount
Can you give a link? I'm corrosion testing a bunch of designs for a review and I could easily add that one.

My concern is that it might not be good around salt.
I am freshwater and not overly concerned about salt and corrosion, but definently curious as to what you find out.

 
Sep 30, 2013
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1988 Catalina 22 North Florida
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Mar 26, 2011
3,672
Corsair F-24 MK I Deale, MD
Those are solder cups. The wire is inserted, heated on the long side of the cup and apply solder to the bare wire.
Thanks, thought so, just never used them.

The problem, then, is that that they cannot comply with ABYC (solder cannot be the sole means of retention). This is, of course, a voluntary standard.
 
Nov 30, 2020
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Macgregor 22 Dania, FL
Thanks, thought so, just never used them.

The problem, then, is that that they cannot comply with ABYC (solder cannot be the sole means of retention). This is, of course, a voluntary standard.
So put a cable clamp next to the socket. Now you have two means of retention. Besides, there are solder joints made during the Roman Empire that are still good today.
 

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SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
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CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
The item in the image has a cable clamp for a 4 wire single line. That gives you 3 power leads and a common ground running up the mast. You would need to look inside the pictured connector to see if there are individual wire clamps in addition to the soldered end, for each wire to meet the ABYC requirement.

Not all boats operate meeting the ABYC requirements. Some boats are non conforming. Not something recommended, but it happens.
 
Jan 25, 2011
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S2 11.0A Anacortes, WA
I’m not sure I’d run three separate loads into one common ground wire. Is this how it’s usually done? My mast is keel stepped so I do not have a deck penetration issue..
 

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SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
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Most certainly. Especially if the loads are LED's and the wires are 14 gauge.
 
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Mar 26, 2011
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Corsair F-24 MK I Deale, MD
So put a cable clamp next to the socket. Now you have two means of retention. Besides, there are solder joints made during the Roman Empire that are still good today.
True, and there are solder conections that have failed when they overheated and pulled apart. A clamp will not meet the requirement. There are connectors that do.
 
Jul 13, 2010
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Precision 23 Perry Hall,Baltimore County
Been told by more than one mechanic your best bet is to run wires through the deck or cabin top
( they can be well sealed) and use good inline connectors or plug. Can be easily accessed later on for replacement if necessary.
 
Jul 1, 2010
990
Catalina 350 Port Huron
My new go to connector for this type of thing is this one by Aqua Signal. I used a couple of these for solar panel connections on our trailerable Seaward 25. When the existing mast light connector (like the one shown in the first post or 2 in this thread) gets corroded and fails again, I'm going to replace that one with the Aqua Signal connector. They aren't cheap, though :(.

 
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Nov 3, 2018
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Cape Dory, Albin 300ms Motorsailer, Vega Baltimore
I’m in the process of rerigging and requiring my mast while it’s off the boat and figuring out how to connect everything. Old connections were at the base of the mast but corroded and us damaged so I’m looking for alternatives. The mast is deck stepped and I’m planning on installing a swan neck cable gland that can hold all of the wires instead of individual cable glands and then connect everything below deck where they can stay out of the sun and weather.
 
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Mar 26, 2011
3,672
Corsair F-24 MK I Deale, MD
I had nothing but problems with those type connectors. Corrosion. Poor connection. $6? Can’t expect much. I switched to trailer connectors and never had a problem since. Aesthetic, no. Reliable? Definitely.

Let the bashing begin.
Me too! Use pleanty of waterproof grease. I was told it wouldn't work... but it did, for years, and they're easy to replace.