The Newb went sailing for the first time solo

topcat0399

topcat0399

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Aug 22, 2011
1,113
MacGregor Venture V224 Cheeseland
Doc_holiday said:
Why are multiple hatch boards better than a single one?
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A triangle shaped one piece hatch has been shown to easily float/fall out of the frame. Studies of the Fastnet disaster among others showed these things to be bad karma.

Why are the multi- piece ones better? I don't know because we still have the one piece triangle one!!!!
 
THECUSCUS

THECUSCUS

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Sep 25, 2008
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Macgregor & Island Packet VENTURE 25 & IP-38 NORTH EAST, MD
Three piece ones are easier to store below. Not much of a concern on a Mac, but on bigger boats a one piece would be a major pita.
 
vizwhiz

vizwhiz

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Aug 7, 2011
496
MacGregor 26S Lakeland, FL
I think the idea that a knockdown means water automatically fills the cockpit and cabin come from the idea that the boat will roll sideways around some central "lateral line", which is not really true. If the boat were laid on its side in the water, the water isn't at the middle of the boat like the mast laying level on the top of the water.

Some larger boats or those with different shapes might, but if most of these boats were to roll on the side, the companionway will still be well above the waterline. Maybe not several feet above, but enough freeboard that you don't just automatically fill up with water.

Just trying to help ease the concerns over knockdown.
 
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RideTheWind

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Apr 9, 2014
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MacGregor 21 Topaz Lake
vizwhiz said:
I think the idea that a knockdown means water automatically fills the cockpit and cabin come from the idea that the boat will roll sideways around some central "lateral line", which is not really true. If the boat were laid on its side in the water, the water isn't at the middle of the boat like the mast laying level on the top of the water.

Some larger boats or those with different shapes might, but if most of these boats were to roll on the side, the companionway will still be well above the waterline. Maybe not several feet above, but enough freeboard that you don't just automatically fill up with water.

Just trying to help ease the concerns over knockdown.
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Yea, I figured it wouldn't fill right off. It's still pretty cold and when these winds happen there are no other boats on the water for the most part... So really it's trying to avoid the ordeal of it. But it is good to hear.
 
vizwhiz

vizwhiz

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Aug 7, 2011
496
MacGregor 26S Lakeland, FL
The other thing to keep in mind is that the further over you go, the more wind spills out of and passes over the sails and there is less force holding you there...it isn't like a big hand holding you down... :)

When you see a knockdown and the boat stays on its side, it is usually because the sail filled with water and that weight holds the boat over (which is why you would usually hold the mainsheet and be ready to dump it if there are stiff gusty conditions.
 
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Piotr

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Dec 6, 2010
848
MacGregor 25 Rock Hall, MD
vizwhiz said:
The other thing to keep in mind is that the further over you go, the more wind spills out of and passes over the sails and there is less force holding you there...it isn't like a big hand holding you down... :)

When you see a knockdown and the boat stays on its side, it is usually because the sail filled with water and that weight holds the boat over (which is why you would usually hold the mainsheet and be ready to dump it if there are stiff gusty conditions.
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Yup. And when you lock down your keel, the more you heel, the bigger the righting force...
 
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