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Feb 17, 2006
5,274
Lancer 27PS MCB Camp Pendleton KF6BL
For the last six months I have been waiting for this day. The day that I get to work on my outboard and make it pass cooling water. I have planned and executed all my troubleshooting techniques in my head with alternative plans in case something did not work out well.

So, today I get to the marina with all my tools and things I will need to get the cooling water working. The motor is a '95 9.9 outboard made by Yamaha. I cannot take it off and bring it home so all the work needs to be done on the boat as if I was home.

I bring a medium size trash can, 3 mil trash bags, salt away concentrate, hand tools, hoses, and anything else I can think of.

I place the lower unit in the trash can, put those in the trash bag and lower the whole thing into the water. I fill up the trash can with 4.5 gallons of water and about 7.5 ounces of saltaway per the website instructions. Start up the motor and no water stream. That is how I left in 6 months ago. I check all hoses for water flow and it is good. Remove the thermostat and it is salted closed. Poured water in the thermostat housing and it trickles in but it is flowing.

So I start the motor again with the thermostat cover off and nothing, then water started flowing out. Put the cover back on without the thermostat. Do a little backflush with regular clean water and start the motor again. Water is starting to flow.

An hour later I have a great stream of water. But a few time the motor started to bog down and vibrate really bad. I shut her down, remove the trash can and trash bag. Connected the back flush hose to just clean it out one more time and then back into the harbor water to do a test run.

Motor will not start. When it does, it shimmies and starts bounding back and forth. Take the hose apart near the fuel pump and see chunks of salt blocking the water flow. Put it back together and start it again. Same issue.

I think during my work the hour before with the flushing and back flushing, I blew a gasket. which on I don't know but I think water is getting into the cylinder and it is not firing.

Without completely taking the motor apart, is there any way I can find out? Maybe remove the spark plugs and check that way? I am suppose to have a boat inspection this Friday, and Monday the 17th I am heading back overseas for another 6 months.

Thoughts, assistance, professional advice will not be turned away. Even someone you know mechanic wise who will do house calls in the North San Diego County would be accepted.

Thanks in advance.
 
Jan 22, 2008
8,050
Beneteau 323 Annapolis MD
An OB I had, the fuel pump diarhram was all that was between the gas and the water. The leak in the diphram mixed the 2. Maybe your flush tore the D?
 

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Sep 22, 2006
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Catalina, Luger C-27, Adventure 30 Marina del Rey
You might want to have Rich in Dana Point take a look at it. He's at 949 228-0192
25802 Victoria, Dana Pt., Ca.
 
Feb 17, 2006
5,274
Lancer 27PS MCB Camp Pendleton KF6BL
Ron, I will check that in the morning.

Thanks, Frank.
 
Apr 1, 2009
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None right now Cruiser Don't have on yet
Brian,
I think the email conversation we had musta jinx my motor too. I launched on Friday only to find no stream on my motor too. So Saturday morning installed new impeller on the water, not fun dropping lower unit standing in waist deep water at a boat ramp. Got it all disassembled only to find the old impeller was good. Mine ended up being a mud-dobber wasp at least 6-8 inches up the tube, where it T's in to the system.
How much pressure did you have in the back-flush? You might have popped the head gasket, but I doubt it. You could always try a leak down test on the cylinders. But it sounds as it might be time for a complete tear down given how much salt deposits you found.
 
Feb 17, 2006
5,274
Lancer 27PS MCB Camp Pendleton KF6BL
I checked all hoses and cleared them. The issue is no longer water flow as that was good up until I put the motor back into the harbor water. But during my flushing in the tub the motor would sometime start to shutter like it was on one cylinder (only after much thought did I come to that conclusion). I contacted the local Yamaha dealer, I can get a new replacement motor for $4200 installed with electric start and auto tilt. I think that is a small price for continued problem free boating for the next few years. But, as far as this vacation goes, no sailing (again) this year. This just not my day. LOL
 
Feb 17, 2006
5,274
Lancer 27PS MCB Camp Pendleton KF6BL
Yep, water in the cylinder. Took the plugs out hoping that was the simple fix. Not so. Lower cylinder with no plug is spiting out water on the up stroke. Oh well, looks like no sailing for awhile. It is all good.
 
Jul 28, 2010
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Boston Whaler Montauk New Orleans
Brian, can you not get a cheap used outboard to get you through this season until you can get the new OB?
 
Feb 17, 2006
5,274
Lancer 27PS MCB Camp Pendleton KF6BL
I have been searching for a replacement T9.9 for that reason, but seem to not be able to find one. I really don't want to buy a motor that I will probably not use. And unfortunately, my season is only two week every six months. LOL so you can see I spend it trying to catch up with repairs.
 
Apr 1, 2009
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None right now Cruiser Don't have on yet
Brian,
I would try and put a new head gasket on and see what happens, it wouldn't be that hard to pull the head. You might get lucky. While you got the head off you could soak it also and cut some of the salt deposits out.
 
Feb 17, 2006
5,274
Lancer 27PS MCB Camp Pendleton KF6BL
There is a guy at the marina who works on Atomic 4 engines and wants to give it a crack, no pun intended. So why not? The most that could happen is that it will not work. If I had the time I would try and tackle it myself, but...
 
Feb 6, 1998
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Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Brian,

So sorry to hear of your debacle. Hope you work it out to get a couple of days in at least...
 
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