Silly question I suppose... I just purchased a new to me 2003 Catalina 36 mkII. How do I tell (without measuring) if I have the Tall Rig or Standard Rig? Is it coded in the hull ID#? The manual, of course has specs for both versions.
Tall Rig or Standard
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Congratulations on your new sailboat!!
Interesting question..........tall vs. conventional will not be coded in the HIN so few options to verify:
Interesting question..........tall vs. conventional will not be coded in the HIN so few options to verify:
- Contact Catalina Yachts Catalina Yachts and provide them your HIN
- Contact mainsail manufacturer and provide them your serial number, if you have one, and if not measure it then compare it to the mainsail area for a tall Catalina 36 MkII Tall rig (Catalina Yachts) - Sailboat specifications - Boat-Specs.com vs. conventional rig SailboatData.com - CATALINA 36 MK II Sailboat
- Look for the "I" dimension without measuring.......a 36 MKII tall rig I is reportedly is 46'-10" per Catalina 36 MkII Tall rig (Catalina Yachts) - Sailboat specifications - Boat-Specs.com vs. a standard rig I is reportedly 44.75' per SailboatData.com - CATALINA 36 MK II Sailboat; if you do not have the I dimension, get your tape measure and attach it to the end of one of your halyards or topping lift and hoist it to the top of the mast, take a measurement from the mast base to the top and obtain your I dimension.
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Nice boat, congratulations.
You should also get to know the skippers at www.c36.org or www.c36ia.org
You should also get to know the skippers at www.c36.org or www.c36ia.org
He wants to know how to answer the question without measuring. A tall rig by definition would have a taller mast.
Congrats to you Ed. A great boat.
You can run a tape up the mast and measure the mast height. A safe proposition.
Or you can try running the boat beneath a bridge with 45.75 ft of clearance. The talk rig will scrape the bottom of the bridge. Or prune the top foot or so off the mast modifying it to a standard rigged Catalina 36 MKII.
Here are the specs. https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/catalina-36-mk-ii
You can run a tape up the mast and measure the mast height. A safe proposition.
Or you can try running the boat beneath a bridge with 45.75 ft of clearance. The talk rig will scrape the bottom of the bridge. Or prune the top foot or so off the mast modifying it to a standard rigged Catalina 36 MKII.
Here are the specs. https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/catalina-36-mk-ii
@EdWard3 if you run a tape measure up the mast, I suggest you also tie a spare line to the halyard to haul it back down. A tape measure is not designed for pulling any significant load, and could lose its end fitting if pulled too hard.
You didn't want to measure but you may have to. You might be able to shoot a laser type "tape'. Or you could measure the "I" dimension of the mainsail.
Fast and easy ...........take a photo of your sailboat mast from a distance then scale its height from the deck to the top vs. a known length in the same photo. Then compare it to the tall vs. standard rig "I" spec for each.
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Another option that requires no measurement............find another Catalina 36 mkII sailor to race against. If you beat it you have a tall rig. The tall rig should win assuming comparable sail condition, jib size and sailing skills.
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run a rope up the mast, mark it, bring it back down, measure on the ground
I think that the boom of a tall rig is 13 foot and the standard rig is only 12 foot - that's the E dimension.
So many options for "Measurephobia" challenged owners.
The use of Geometry to identify a height plays into the prophesy of HS Math teachers... "You will need this some day!"
Lets hope that @EdWard3 has found at least one solution that will serve his needs. I am in favor of the "Bridge Contact" method. Kind of the way my cat decides to wander into a space. If the whiskers touch the hips cannot follow.
Not every method is without risks... Just have someone film the event. It might spice up our winter days.
The use of Geometry to identify a height plays into the prophesy of HS Math teachers... "You will need this some day!"
Lets hope that @EdWard3 has found at least one solution that will serve his needs. I am in favor of the "Bridge Contact" method. Kind of the way my cat decides to wander into a space. If the whiskers touch the hips cannot follow.
Not every method is without risks... Just have someone film the event. It might spice up our winter days.
Congrats on the boat! I've always liked the C-36.
A few more not very useful suggestions:
1. Rig a cue ball onto a halyard in such a way as it can be released quickly and freely.
2. Hoist the ball to the top of the mast
3. Drop the ball and accurately measure the time it takes to impact the deck
h = 1/2gt2 - where t is the measured time and little g is 9.8 m/s2 (how much the earth sucks)
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Walk around your marina until you find another C36. Ask them if it's a tall rig. Enjoy the chat and maybe a few beverages. Park next to them and compare.
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Accurately measure the angle between the forestay and horizontal. Lets call that ø.
You know the J measurement of the boat, it's 4.37 m for both the standard and tall rigs.
I/J = tan(ø)
Therefore I = 4.37 * tan(ø)
A few more not very useful suggestions:
1. Rig a cue ball onto a halyard in such a way as it can be released quickly and freely.
2. Hoist the ball to the top of the mast
3. Drop the ball and accurately measure the time it takes to impact the deck
h = 1/2gt2 - where t is the measured time and little g is 9.8 m/s2 (how much the earth sucks)
--- OR ---
Walk around your marina until you find another C36. Ask them if it's a tall rig. Enjoy the chat and maybe a few beverages. Park next to them and compare.
--- OR ---
Accurately measure the angle between the forestay and horizontal. Lets call that ø.
You know the J measurement of the boat, it's 4.37 m for both the standard and tall rigs.
I/J = tan(ø)
Therefore I = 4.37 * tan(ø)
There you go! That sounds like the easiest thing to do so far. Ultimately I think best to run a tape up the mast. -Thanks!
I certainly have !!!! Thanks for all your help. Stay tuned for more ridiculous questions in the future! -Ed
I took the without measuring to mean, I do not have a 100' tape measure to run up the mast. Even a fat max tape has distance limits.Which one is REALLY priceless?
Once you go laser you never go back.
So, @EdWard3 , which rig do you have ... so we all can tell you why you got the wrong one
Measuring the boom tomorrow!
So, @EdWard3 , which rig do you have ... so we all can tell you why you got the wrong one