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pgrant

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Feb 16, 2010
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catalina 30 key west
about to have survey done on boat would like to purchase. however the boat is currently at the slip in the water??
 
Oct 22, 2008
3,502
- Telstar 28 Buzzards Bay
Well, they can't check the hull for osmosis issues, since it will be too wet to do so... but the rest of the survey can be done, with the underwater portion of the hull and boat being inspected by lifting it out of the water and leaving it in the slings.
 

pgrant

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Feb 16, 2010
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catalina 30 key west
Well, they can't check the hull for osmosis issues, since it will be too wet to do so... but the rest of the survey can be done, with the underwater portion of the hull and boat being inspected by lifting it out of the water and leaving it in the slings.
probably a obvious answer but i most definately should have the boat hauled out for complete inspection?
 

Blitz

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Jul 10, 2007
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Seidelmann 34 Atlantic Highlands, NJ
probably a obvious answer but i most definately should have the boat hauled out for complete inspection?

Of course, you will be taking a big risk by not having the hull, keel and rudder inspected - all big ticket items if there is damage.
 

richk

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Jan 24, 2007
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Marlow-Hunter 37 Deep Creek off the Magothy River off ChesBay
yes...

probably a obvious answer but i most definately should have the boat hauled out for complete inspection?
short answer...yes unless the haul costs more than the boat, then rethink it
 
Sep 25, 2008
7,337
Alden 50 Sarasota, Florida
Your scenario is the most common one - that being, buying a boat in the water. Simply have it surveryed. Any survey will necessarily have a short-haul. Any good surveyor can tell by sounding if you have hull issues and blisters will be obvious. Unless the hull is cored and old, core rot is very unusual and again, this would be apparent to a good surveyor.
 

pgrant

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Feb 16, 2010
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catalina 30 key west
survey company

Your scenario is the most common one - that being, buying a boat in the water. Simply have it surveryed. Any survey will necessarily have a short-haul. Any good surveyor can tell by sounding if you have hull issues and blisters will be obvious. Unless the hull is cored and old, core rot is very unusual and again, this would be apparent to a good surveyor.
thanks for info. can anyone suggest good surveying company? (boat is actually in northeast). is the one from the link on boats.com reliable?
 

Tim R.

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May 27, 2004
3,626
Caliber 40 Long Range Cruiser Portland, Maine
Get the surveyor to do the in water survey first. That way if he finds a deal killer there you have not wasted your money on the short haul. If the in water survey goes well then you should definitely haul and have the bottom, keel, rudder, etc checked.
 
Oct 2, 2006
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Jboat J24 commack
Is the boat covered ? as the in water boats have taken a beating this season on Long Island
 
Oct 2, 2006
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Jboat J24 commack
Wear about becasue we had some hard freezes

I used QBC MARINE SURVEYS DAVID MACLAY local to area so you will not pay any travel costs
 
Jun 7, 2007
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Hunter 320 Williamsburg
Unless it's pre-1990, the hull should be okay anyway.
Priot to 1990 blisters may be an issue.
I've never had a boat surveyed.
By the same reasoning, I've never run a credit check on my wives prior to marrying.
 
Dec 1, 1999
2,391
Hunter 28.5 Chesapeake Bay
Here us what I suggest: If you've inspected the boat (use Casey's "Inspecting the Aging Sailboat" or something similar) and like it, make an offer contingent on a full survey and sea trial. Your offer should include a refundable deposit of 10-20 per cent of the agreed upon price. Have a survey done which includes a short haul, at your expense. The sale would be concluded in a month or so when you can then do a short sea trial (with your surveyor) to run up sails, run the engine, and make sure all system operate. Your deposit, held in escrow, shows your sincerity. If the survey or sea trial uncover any deficiency, it's rectification should be negotiated (usually some sort of split between buyer and seller). If the deficiency is too serious for you, the deal is cancelled and your deposit returned.
 

pgrant

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Feb 16, 2010
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catalina 30 key west
Here us what I suggest: If you've inspected the boat (use Casey's "Inspecting the Aging Sailboat" or something similar) and like it, make an offer contingent on a full survey and sea trial. Your offer should include a refundable deposit of 10-20 per cent of the agreed upon price. Have a survey done which includes a short haul, at your expense. The sale would be concluded in a month or so when you can then do a short sea trial (with your surveyor) to run up sails, run the engine, and make sure all system operate. Your deposit, held in escrow, shows your sincerity. If the survey or sea trial uncover any deficiency, it's rectification should be negotiated (usually some sort of split between buyer and seller). If the deficiency is too serious for you, the deal is cancelled and your deposit returned.
warren,

sounds great. know if there's a standard form floating around that i could use for this agreement?
 

Tim R.

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May 27, 2004
3,626
Caliber 40 Long Range Cruiser Portland, Maine
Unless it's pre-1990, the hull should be okay anyway.
Priot to 1990 blisters may be an issue.
I've never had a boat surveyed.
By the same reasoning, I've never run a credit check on my wives prior to marrying.
Do not skip the hull survey. Some post 1990 hulls have been known to blister. You also cannot see any damage that may have occurred unless you haul and survey. This might be exactly why the owner left it in the water.
 
Jun 9, 2008
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Your broker or boat dealer should have a purchase agreement you can use for the sale of the boat with your contingencies. If you haul the boat for a survey, make sure you let the boat sit out of the water for a while before you put a moisture meter on it. A good surveyor should insist on a time period before he tests it. I have seen poor surveyors do moisture tests right after the boat is hauled and OF COURSE he will find moisture. It is a good idea to have the in the water portion of the survey done, as mentioned above, to see if there are any "deal breakers" before spending your cash on hauling for the out of the water survey.
 
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