Sunken Treasure

May 17, 2004
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Beneteau Oceanis 37 Havre de Grace
The Legend series were all fractional rigged I think. The mast on what you have is masthead rigged and looks like the older style Cherubini era Hunter masts to me.
 
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I was hoping it was going to be on top of the water by now. :)

I sure hope you don't have to look at it all the time. That would be arduous.
I was hoping it was up by now, too. I may have to take a dive to visually see if it has a walkthrough transom. If it does not, then I’m out.
 

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The Legend series were all fractional rigged I think. The mast on what you have is masthead rigged and looks like the older style Cherubini era Hunter masts to me.
That’s is very helpful information. Thank you!
 

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Jul 13, 2004
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Dolphin Catamaran Dolphin 460 Mystic, CT
A boat with balsa cored deck, and potentially hull, submerged for 1.5yrs in fresh water, and you are still considering it? Even if someone else paid for its raising and plopping it in a free workspace, this boat will cost you at least 3x as much as just buying a good one.

Mark
 
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A boat with balsa cored deck, and potentially hull, submerged for 1.5yrs in fresh water, and you are still considering it? Even if someone else paid for its raising and plopping it in a free workspace, this boat will cost you at least 3x as much as just buying a good one.

Mark
Yeah, call me crazy… I think I’m walking away from this project. The hull number says it’s an 85, previous owner says it’s an 87 legend 37. Too many unknowns at this point. Wanted a long project boat and an aft cabin, but maybe this one isn’t it.
 
Jun 10, 2024
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Macgregor / Hunter M25 /Hunter 240 Okanagan Lake
But what if it is a walk through transom :)
I get that, we love it on our 240. I would pull it, if given the opportunity. The story would be awesome!
 
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Mar 23, 2017
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Belliure 41 Back in the Chesapeake
A boat with balsa cored deck, and potentially hull, submerged for 1.5yrs in fresh water, and you are still considering it? Even if someone else paid for its raising and plopping it in a free workspace, this boat will cost you at least 3x as much as just buying a good one.

Mark
Many of us have tried to tell him this. But there are some non-economic, preference to work on a boat over sailing, based reasons that keep driving this.

Hard for me to understand as I prefer to sail over working on a boat for years and never getting to sail.

There is always lots of ways to spend money on boats but starting with a boat that is going to take years to get into sailing condition, and will cost much more than simply going and buying the exact same boat, or a better boat, in sail-away condition is beyond my ability to understand.

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Mar 23, 2017
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But what if it is a walk through transom :)
I get that, we love it on our 240. I would pull it, if given the opportunity. The story would be awesome!
I like the awesome stories of sailing - working on the boat comes with owning a boat to keep it sailing.

What an awesome story - I pulled a boat off the bottom. Spent years working on it. Spent 10 times the amount of money on getting it in sailing condition and FINALLY got to go sailing for a week before my health crashed and I had to sell it .. Yeah. Not on my list of awesome... But each to their own...

dj
 

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But what if it is a walk through transom :)
I get that, we love it on our 240. I would pull it, if given the opportunity. The story would be awesome!
I like the awesome stories of sailing - working on the boat comes with owning a boat to keep it sailing.

What an awesome story - I pulled a boat off the bottom. Spent years working on it. Spent 10 times the amount of money on getting it in sailing condition and FINALLY got to go sailing for a week before my health crashed and I had to sell it .. Yeah. Not on my list of awesome... But each to their own...

dj
A boat with balsa cored deck, and potentially hull, submerged for 1.5yrs in fresh water, and you are still considering it? Even if someone else paid for its raising and plopping it in a free workspace, this boat will cost you at least 3x as much as just buying a good one.

Mark
Many of us have tried to tell him this. But there are some non-economic, preference to work on a boat over sailing, based reasons that keep driving this.

Hard for me to understand as I prefer to sail over working on a boat for years and never getting to sail.

There is always lots of ways to spend money on boats but starting with a boat that is going to take years to get into sailing condition, and will cost much more than simply going and buying the exact same boat, or a better boat, in sail-away condition is beyond my ability to understand.

dj
I enjoy working on boats, keeps me out of trouble.
 

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But what if it is a walk through transom :)
I get that, we love it on our 240. I would pull it, if given the opportunity. The story would be awesome!
I like the awesome stories of sailing - working on the boat comes with owning a boat to keep it sailing.

What an awesome story - I pulled a boat off the bottom. Spent years working on it. Spent 10 times the amount of money on getting it in sailing condition and FINALLY got to go sailing for a week before my health crashed and I had to sell it .. Yeah. Not on my list of awesome... But each to their own...

dj
I do have a sailboat that I sail currently, two different stories at the same time is possible.
 
Jun 21, 2004
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Beneteau 343 Slidell, LA
I enjoy working on boats, keeps me out of trouble.
You know that boat ownership provides plenty of opportunities to work on the boat; upgrades & routine maintenance will keep you happy and you will even be able to sail occasionally. I would avoid the sunken boat. It’s been submerged too long.:(
 

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Jul 13, 2004
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Dolphin Catamaran Dolphin 460 Mystic, CT
I enjoy working on boats, keeps me out of trouble.
I get that. But I don't think you really understand what fresh water can do to a boat, its systems, and its structural core. Recoring an entire boat is little different than just building a new one from scratch. It may result in a weaker structure, and it will definitely be more hazardous to your health. I have a lot of experience with fiberglass, composites, and structural work, and I would choose to build a new boat rather than restore this one.

You can definitely find a free project boat that hasn't been sunk. And have more choices of them.

Mark
 

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I enjoy working on boats, keeps me out of trouble.
You know that boat ownership provides plenty of opportunities to work on the boat; upgrades & routine maintenance will keep you happy and you will even be able to sail occasionally. I would avoid the sunken boat. It’s been submerged too long.:(
Thanks, I’m getting closer to that resolution. Currently can’t determine that it’s actually a legend 37. The hull number provided by the state says it is a 1985 Hunter. Soooooo, who knows. May just take a little diving adventure.
 
Jan 5, 2017
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Beneteau First 38 Lyall Harbour Saturna Island
I do have a sailboat that I sail currently, two different stories at the same time is possible.
I think we all know people that spent a lifetime building a boat and never got to sail it. I’ve spent time building several boats but always had one to sail at the same time. Sometimes it’s the satisfaction of just fixing something.
 

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I want to pose a crazy question:
What are your thoughts and/or experience with rebuilding a sunken sailboat? I am considering having one floated and rebuilding her. She’s been down about a year in freshwater. It is believed to have been an act of vandalism, not a hull issue. I am not certain what it is, but I’m leaning towards it being a 1977 Morgan 382. Engine wasn’t operable when she sank, which isn’t a problem for me as I was strongly considering an electric conversion anyway. I guess my biggest concern is with the hull and deck. I expect to replace everything on the interior and I’m not in a hurry to finish the project, more of a hobby. Thanks for any input you may have to offer.
UPDATE: I have decided that I am out on this project. I am concerned that the registration information and the boat it’s supposed to be do not match. I am not wanting a cored hull, so with being positive that it’s a Legend 37, I’m out. I have enjoyed all of your thoughts and input and hopefully I can find another project boat to discuss with you all, and maybe even one on the correct side of the water. Until next time, toodle-oo.
 

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Mar 23, 2017
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Belliure 41 Back in the Chesapeake
hopefully I can find another project boat to discuss with you all, and maybe even one on the correct side of the water. Until next time, toodle-oo.
There are often project boats that someone started and didn't finish. They often have all the parts, much of the major work has been done and now just need to be finished. I've seen them being given away - just transport them to where you want to do the finish work and finish them up. Still a lot of work but at least you are starting from a solid foundation.

Good luck!

dj
 

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hopefully I can find another project boat to discuss with you all, and maybe even one on the correct side of the water. Until next time, toodle-oo.
There are often project boats that someone started and didn't finish. They often have all the parts, much of the major work has been done and now just need to be finished. I've seen them being given away - just transport them to where you want to do the finish work and finish them up. Still a lot of work but at least you are starting from a solid foundation.

Good luck!

dj
Thanks!
 
Jan 1, 2006
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Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
I think it was Willie Nelson who said: "The next time I think I want to get Married, I'll just find a woman I don't like too much and buy her a house."
How does this relate? The OP is looking for a wife when he really needs a girlfriend.
 
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I think it was Willie Nelson who said: "The next time I think I want to get Married, I'll just find a woman I don't like too much and buy her a house."
How does this relate? The OP is looking for a wife when he really needs a girlfriend.
Ha! Like it! But, the truth is probably closer to just wanting an escape from the normal day to day.