Sound Signalling Device

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druid

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Apr 22, 2009
837
Ontario 32 Pender Harbour
I'm looking for my favourite "sound signalling device" for my new-to-me Ontario 32 and I can't find it.

I like the MANUAL horn - the one you blow. It's loud, and it just works. You don't have to worry about power or air pressure - if you can breathe the horn will work. BUT, I can't find one for sale anywhere, which makes me wonder: do they satisfy the requirement for a "sound signalling device"? I can't see why they wouldn't, but maybe...?

Any thoughts?
druid
"Wind Drift" Ontario 32
 
May 6, 2012
303
Hunter 28.5 Jordan, ON
I can't answer your question but I can suggest an alternative...

...attach a pealess whistle to your PFD - kill two birds (SSD noise and SOS noise) with one stone.
 

druid

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Apr 22, 2009
837
Ontario 32 Pender Harbour
I can't answer your question but I can suggest an alternative...

...attach a pealess whistle to your PFD - kill two birds (SSD noise and SOS noise) with one stone.
I'm not sure a whiistle satisfies the SSD requirement: How would captains react to hearing a whistle in the fog? And, I believe the horn is substantially louder than a whistle.

druid
 
May 6, 2012
303
Hunter 28.5 Jordan, ON
Yes it does.

And I hope they'd react with caution and an awareness that something's out there (the point).
 
Jun 6, 2006
6,990
currently boatless wishing Harrington Harbor North, MD
I prefer the pressurized air horn. the one I have is rechargeable and comes with a small bycycle pump for that purpose. As often as we use it we generally test it once per outing and recharge as needed
 
Jun 8, 2004
3,011
Catalina 320 Dana Point
My favorite is a horn that uses a piece of cellophane, searching for it I can only find suppliers in the UK, it's loud, easy to blow, deep and makes you sound much bigger:dance:
http://www.force4.co.uk/7516/Force-4-Blaster-Oral-Fog-Horn.html
The only thing similar I've seen here in N. America seems to be these
http://www.blasthorn.com/
Or are you looking for the tin Witch's Hat type?
Just found them here at Overton's
http://www.overtons.com/modperl/pro...ster&clickid=0004cce814e0393a0a42eca381001fdf
 
Sep 25, 2008
961
Macgregor & Island Packet VENTURE 25 & IP-38 NORTH EAST, MD
Did you try searching on Ebay? I found a reaaly nice brass, witch's hat type afew years ago.
 
Oct 26, 2005
2,057
- - Satellite Beach, FL.
My favorite is a horn that uses a piece of cellophane, searching for it I can only find suppliers in the UK, it's loud, easy to blow, deep and makes you sound much bigger:dance:
http://www.force4.co.uk/7516/Force-4-Blaster-Oral-Fog-Horn.html
The only thing similar I've seen here in N. America seems to be these
http://www.blasthorn.com/
Or are you looking for the tin Witch's Hat type?
Just found them here at Overton's
http://www.overtons.com/modperl/pro...ster&clickid=0004cce814e0393a0a42eca381001fdf
I always appreciate well put together advertising!
 

caguy

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Sep 22, 2006
4,004
Catalina, Luger C-27, Adventure 30 Marina del Rey
If you have outside speakers for your stereo, there are programed horns that blow pretty loud. You can replay them so they automatically repeat.
 
Dec 2, 1999
15,184
Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
Sound Producing Devices

The navigation rules require sound signals to be made under certain circumstances. Meeting, crossing and overtaking situations described in the Navigation Rules section are examples of when sound signals are required. Recreational vessels are also required to sound for signals during periods of reduced visibility. Therefore, you must have some means of making and efficient sound signal. Although regulations do not specifically require vessels less than 12 meters to carry a whistle, horn or bell.
Vessels 12 meters or more in length are required to carry on board a power whistle or power horn and a bell.
 
May 6, 2012
303
Hunter 28.5 Jordan, ON
Sound Producing Devices

The navigation rules require sound signals to be made under certain circumstances. Meeting, crossing and overtaking situations described in the Navigation Rules section are examples of when sound signals are required. Recreational vessels are also required to sound for signals during periods of reduced visibility. Therefore, you must have some means of making and efficient sound signal. Although regulations do not specifically require vessels less than 12 meters to carry a whistle, horn or bell.
Vessels 12 meters or more in length are required to carry on board a power whistle or power horn and a bell.
I don't think you're referencing Transport Canada regulations. I believe the poster sails out of Vancouver, BC. Which means this applies, no?

Sound-signalling appliances

Pleasure craft 12 m (39’4”) or greater in length must have a fitted whistle. Check the Collision Regulations for the technical criteria the whistle must meet.

Sound-signalling devices

Pleasure craft less than 12 m (39’4”) in length need a sound-signalling device if they are not fitted with a sound-signalling appliance. The sound-signalling device can be a pealess whistle, compressed gas horn or an electric horn.
 

druid

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Apr 22, 2009
837
Ontario 32 Pender Harbour
My concern about the whistle vs horn is that they may think it was an emergency - how would they differentiate between a whistle blowing for navigation and one blowing for an emergency?

"Witches Hat", eh? Yup, that's what I'm looking for, I guess (the link goes to another "party horn"). And the requirement for possibly blowing it often is the exact reason why I like them - they NEVER run out of pressure! I don't like the pump-up kind because you may need it in a hurry and that's exactly when it won't have any pressure. I have had one and it never lost its pressure, but you never know...

I donno about those "party horns". The one I'm talking about would make everyone's ears ring for an hr if it was blown indoors. You could probably do permanent hearing damage to someone close by with it.

druid
 
Jan 14, 2011
243
tanzer tanzer 28 bathurst nb
i have one that the pump is actually attached to the horn so you pump it and it blows loudly, it was bought at Canadian tire
 
May 6, 2012
303
Hunter 28.5 Jordan, ON
druid said:
My concern about the whistle vs horn is that they may think it was an emergency - how would they differentiate between a whistle blowing for navigation and one blowing for an emergency?

"Witches Hat", eh? Yup, that's what I'm looking for, I guess (the link goes to another "party horn"). And the requirement for possibly blowing it often is the exact reason why I like them - they NEVER run out of pressure! I don't like the pump-up kind because you may need it in a hurry and that's exactly when it won't have any pressure. I have had one and it never lost its pressure, but you never know...

I donno about those "party horns". The one I'm talking about would make everyone's ears ring for an hr if it was blown indoors. You could probably do permanent hearing damage to someone close by with it.

druid
Sure, I have no problem with your concerns. I was just pointing out an alternative and confirming it was sanctioned by (generally conservative) local regulations.

I carry two canned air horns in addition to a whistle... :D
 
Jul 8, 2012
144
Helms 25 indiana
the one with the painted on shirt was a distraction but I did like the devices. my boats dont have anything on them and one of those would fill the bill
 
Oct 25, 2011
576
Island Packet IP31 Lake St. Louis, Montreal
Druid

I think I have one in my basement. I will look tomorrow morning and will take a of if I can find it. If you want it it's yours. For the cost of getting it from Montreal to your place

Cheers

Matt
 
Oct 2, 2008
3,811
Pearson/ 530 Strafford, NH
During the summer we were the unwilling participants of the heavy fog that formed in the Portland, Maine harbor. As we made our way into the waterway it became more confusing to have many horns sounding as we went along. However there was one sailboat crew banging pans from the bow. We were able to pinpoint their direction better than the horns and slowed down to see them pass withing 50 feet of our bow. Good device if you have extra crew.
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