Soft Replacement for Lazarette Hasp?

Ward H

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Nov 7, 2011
3,776
Catalina 30 Mk II Cedar Creek, Bayville NJ
My O'day has the usual (I think) hinged padlock hasp on the cockpit lockers so they can be locked.

I was able to do a lot of sailing this week and the stationary part (padlock end) of the locking hasps tore up my legs. Twice I had blood running down my legs from hitting those things and bruises in other places.

I don't really need to padlock the lockers so was wondering if anyone knows of something that can be used to keep the lockers closed but not protrude or is soft?
 

Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
8,174
Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
I would remove them or find another place/way to mount them... .. I can't imagine them being that annoying.. I don't thing I've ever had that problem.. perhaps they are incorrectly placed. On my boat you would have to scrunch your legs right up against the side of the foot well... almost impossible at my age.
 

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Feb 26, 2004
23,004
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Mine are like Joe's and I haven't had any issues in 16 years, plus another 15 years on prior Catalinas.

Go to ACE Hardware and get new assemblies, no need to pay marine store prices, plus they probably have a wider selection. You could also move them further forward or aft based on your movement patterns in your cockpit.
 

Pat

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Jun 7, 2004
1,250
Oday 272LE Ninnescah Yacht Club, Wichita, Ks.
Mine cut my leg also so about 10 years ago I removed the entire setup and no longer lock the lazarette so no need for injury prone hasp. it stays completely shut in a bad storm.
Pat
 
May 6, 2012
303
Hunter 28.5 Jordan, ON
Mine cut my leg also so about 10 years ago I removed the entire setup and no longer lock the lazarette so no need for injury prone hasp. it stays completely shut in a bad storm.
Pat
Please reconsider this strategy - they will likely open (wide!) if you capsize.

Some tie a small line off to the underside of the hatch, and then lead it to an accessible location in the cabin to cleat off, locking the hatch that way. Simply ease the line at the cleat in the cabin to open the hatch.
 
Nov 19, 2011
1,489
MacGregor 26S Hampton, VA
The one installed on my Mac laz is not in the way but it buzzes like heck when the motor is running. Drives me nuts.
 
Oct 24, 2010
2,405
Hunter 30 Everett, WA
Pad it with Velcro

The one installed on my Mac laz is not in the way but it buzzes like heck when the motor is running. Drives me nuts.
P put small pads cut from self adhesive Velcro where they rattle. Now it's silent.
Ken
 

caguy

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Sep 22, 2006
4,004
Catalina, Luger C-27, Adventure 30 Marina del Rey
My O'day has the usual (I think) hinged padlock hasp on the cockpit lockers so they can be locked.

I was able to do a lot of sailing this week and the stationary part (padlock end) of the locking hasps tore up my legs. Twice I had blood running down my legs from hitting those things and bruises in other places.

I don't really need to padlock the lockers so was wondering if anyone knows of something that can be used to keep the lockers closed but not protrude or is soft?
On my Mac 25 the PO installed a 3/8" line that was attached to the bottom of the lid and ran through the aft birth to the cabin next to the companion way where it was cleated off with cam cleat. There was no need for a hasp.
 

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Feb 26, 2004
23,004
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
The one installed on my Mac laz is not in the way but it buzzes like heck when the motor is running. Drives me nuts.
Ken's velcro idea sounds good. I bought some 3/8" weatherstripping for other reasons and simply taped a small piece to the inside (when down) part, stops the buzzing. Get creative, don't let the noise get to ya!
 
Mar 20, 2012
3,983
Cal 34-III, MacGregor 25 Salem, Oregon
Please reconsider this strategy - they will likely open (wide!) if you capsize.

Some tie a small line off to the underside of the hatch, and then lead it to an accessible location in the cabin to cleat off, locking the hatch that way. Simply ease the line at the cleat in the cabin to open the hatch.
I agree... this is the same way I have mine rigged. and it eliminates the need for one lock and it also eliminates a rattling hasp..

use 2 pad eyes... one attached to the under side of the hatch, and the other attached somewhere directly below it to the hull.... then tie a line to the hatch eye, lead it thru the lower pad eye and forward to the cabin.... and wrap it around a cleat.

I use a snap hook on the hatch end of the line so that I can disconnect it and move it out of the way when im working in there.
 

Ward H

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Nov 7, 2011
3,776
Catalina 30 Mk II Cedar Creek, Bayville NJ
Usually it is just the Admiral and myself on the boat but this past week we had 2 non sailors with us and the hasps jumped out to grab everyone. Never had a problem last year but time to come up with something better.

I replaced the originals with the same twist hasp shown in Joe's photo, which I like because I can keep the hasp closed without having to hang a padlock.

Next trip to the boat I will see if Stu's idea to move them forward or aft will do the trick. Putting them closer to a corner should get them out of the way. If not, I like those latches Jack shows. I found them on the Southco.com.

If I needed the security, I would copy what caguy and CL did bit I'll try these other ideas first.

Thanks
 
Nov 9, 2012
2,500
Oday 192 Lake Nockamixon
Yeah, this is how they do it on the Sage 17 :D

:D

Please reconsider this strategy - they will likely open (wide!) if you capsize.

Some tie a small line off to the underside of the hatch, and then lead it to an accessible location in the cabin to cleat off, locking the hatch that way. Simply ease the line at the cleat in the cabin to open the hatch.
 

Erieau

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Apr 3, 2009
209
Oday 25 Erieau
Ward,

I used to bark my shins on that $/@&ing hasp a lot (also on the autopilot-socket cap).
I moved the hasp forward, next to the winch-handle pocket. One of the better things I've done.
 
Jun 8, 2004
853
Pearson 26W Marblehead
heres another Idea

At my age my sensitive skin kept getting banged up from just moving around the boat
I picked up a pair of shin guards The kind kids use to play hockey easy to put on and take off That solved the problem for me
 
Oct 26, 2008
6,243
Catalina 320 Barnegat, NJ
Those hasps look like trouble to me for a lazerette latch. Joe solves the problem because his is protected by another obstacle, where a knee or shin is not likely to get a direct hit. But if it is in the open, watch out! There is no avoiding it.

I would replace it for sure. I have a latch with a ss handle that is nicely rounded and somewhat recessed, but I can't find a duplicate with a quick search. I suggest you replace yours with a flush mount latch. It should be a nice little project and upgrade.

Boat Outfitters has a lot of options for flush mount latches.

I have a problem with the hinges that have sharp corners right on top of the seat! I've skinned my knuckles and even sliced by bare foot on those things. That's an upgrade I need to make.
 

ScottS

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Dec 26, 2012
24
Beneteau 285 Lake Norman, NC
I would remove them or find another place/way to mount them... .. I can't imagine them being that annoying.. I don't thing I've ever had that problem.. perhaps they are incorrectly placed. On my boat you would have to scrunch your legs right up against the side of the foot well... almost impossible at my age.

Is it just me or did anyone else think that Joe's cockpit was filled with water when they first looked at his picture? :eek:

Scott
 

caguy

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Sep 22, 2006
4,004
Catalina, Luger C-27, Adventure 30 Marina del Rey
Those hasps look like trouble to me for a lazerette latch. Joe solves the problem because his is protected by another obstacle, where a knee or shin is not likely to get a direct hit. But if it is in the open, watch out! There is no avoiding it.

I would replace it for sure. I have a latch with a ss handle that is nicely rounded and somewhat recessed, but I can't find a duplicate with a quick search. I suggest you replace yours with a flush mount latch. It should be a nice little project and upgrade.

Boat Outfitters has a lot of options for flush mount latches.

I have a problem with the hinges that have sharp corners right on top of the seat! I've skinned my knuckles and even sliced by bare foot on those things. That's an upgrade I need to make.
I have them on mine and never raked my legs on them. Now that I know about them I'm sure from here on out I will each nd every time, thanks. ;)
 
Oct 6, 2008
857
Hunter, Island Packet, Catalina, San Juan 26,38,22,23 Kettle Falls, Washington
I just saw a boat where the owner had installed a short throttle cable that ran from the inside of his companion way to a pin that locked his cockpit lockers from the underside. One for each side. Very clean solution.
Ray